G.W.R. BLT: Almost there.

jonte

Western Thunderer
As one who has ballasting to do on Whatborough Camp layout (Cropsham now has a huge question mark hanging over it :(.) this was very interesting although I shall require less diesel gunk and more steam loco oil gunk.........:confused:. It's the same story but with different charactors....:rolleyes:!
Thank you Jon and Paul for posting such helpful information.

Roger
Very kind, Roger, but I can take absolutely no credit for it :thumbs:

Glad it was of use, though.

Whilst the oily deposits were due to the presence of later diesels in the videos, I have to admit that the gunk was remarkably similar to those of dirty old kettles too from what I’ve seen from photos of fifties and sixties trackwork, so still of value I feel to modellers of both periods.

In fact, Roger, whilst my own humble affair is just ‘jenrul grate westun’ ;), I’m very much influenced by photos of the Fairford branch and couldn’t help noticing the similarities with Paul’s results, which saves me having to reinvent the wheel somewhat.

There might, however, be the odd deviation from Paul’s most excellent recipe, but only in so far as his use of DAS which I’ll replace with gypsum as I find it simpler to use (plus I’m out of the stuff :D).

Thanks for dropping by, Roger.

Jon
 

Roger Pound

Western Thunderer
Whilst the oily deposits were due to the presence of later diesels in the videos, I have to admit that the gunk was remarkably similar to those of dirty old kettles too from what I’ve seen from photos of fifties and sixties trackwork, so still of value I feel to modellers of both periods.

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The scenic mixture would remain more or less the same- just the application would vary. It's a good job we don't do 'smell' (odourama :eek: ) - the two oils were quite different in that respect. We used to call diesel oil 'stinky' in days long gone. Like I said, it's all variations on a theme and the help and guidance provided by our fellows on WT is fantastic.;)

Roger
 

PjKing1

Western Thunderer
The scenic mixture would remain more or less the same- just the application would vary. It's a good job we don't do 'smell' (odourama :eek: ) - the two oils were quite different in that respect. We used to call diesel oil 'stinky' in days long gone. Like I said, it's all variations on a theme and the help and guidance provided by our fellows on WT is fantastic.;)

Roger
How good would it be though if our model track could smell of diesel and creosote!

Paul
 

Phil O

Western Thunderer
The scenic mixture would remain more or less the same- just the application would vary. It's a good job we don't do 'smell' (odourama :eek: ) - the two oils were quite different in that respect. We used to call diesel oil 'stinky' in days long gone. Like I said, it's all variations on a theme and the help and guidance provided by our fellows on WT is fantastic.;)

Roger

If you think diesel stinks, you want to get a whiff of furnace fuel oil, it's heavier and stickier and one helluva lot stinkier, than diesel. The site of a couple of tanks, were removed from site in the 60's and every time it rained the area still stank of the stuff in the 90's, when I left the yard.
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Earlier, I removed the unsightly choc-bloc connectors as intended as the wiring proved more robust than first thought.

Here it’s seen after removal and sheathed in shrink wrap:

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I also took the liberty of adding a short section adjacent to the feed at the rear which was notably missing.

I’ll tidy the wires and paint them white to help blend them with the underside of the lid.

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Distractions have seen me investing my time elsewhere of late, although a brief slot today saw me adding a leftover length of LED lighting to the middle of the lid in the interests of balance; it was also a shame to throw it away:

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Has it made any difference?

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Although yet to paint the wires to blend, I’ve managed to make the feed wires a little less obtrusive:

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Again, a couple to show (hopefully) a balance of light throughout (still got to purchase a battery for the remote dimmer to test different conditions):

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While the wagon was out, I just thought I’d try and show that it’s possible to place/replace derailed stock with the lid on:

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There’s still a good couple of inches or so of leeway above my hand.

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Added a final small section to the run of LEDs to disguise the feed wires by fixing them in front.

After wiring up, I gave it a test. I swear I heard a sizzling sound as the light started flickering.

Returning it to the layout, all seems a little warmer but dimmer in brilliance. Hmmm.

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Perhaps the cooler LED lights have popped ? Who knows. Perhaps there’s just a tad more resistance.

Still haven’t got the battery to power up the remote to see if I can still make it cooler, so it’s a guessing game.

Never mind. Might have to send off for another set.

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Hi Michael, and thank you for the benefit of your thoughts.

I think the problem here is two fold, Michael, the second being that it’s ended up a lot dimmer than liked and with quite a stark amount of shadow cast :(

I’ve bitten the bullet, Michael and ordered another set, but this time, I’ll only use a couple of lengths affixed to the front only as with such a low ceiling, the lights elsewhere are distracting, so I suppose every cloud…..

Jon
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
As mentioned, I found the perimeter lighting of before a little distracting and…..well…..blinding, so with a new set of lights in hand, I set about the task of confining the light strips to the rear of the fascia to illiminate the problem.

But how and where to provide the feed wire without it sticking out like a sore thumb?

Whilst waiting for the new set of lights to arrive, I began poring over the photographs of the build to date, just to see how far I’d come on this ‘just get on with it’ build, when I noticed that the construction of the fascia ‘wings’ had left a handy conduit into which I could just about fit three wires. So that was that. I’d like to write that it was intended, but far from it; just a case of the gods looking favourably upon me - for once!

Some photos.

The socket for the LED lights connected to the wires that feed the strips via a choc-bloc connector (they can be seen disappearing into a hole in a beam that leads to the cavity which can also be seen at the base):

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The cable from the plug connected to the LED socket through a hole in the rear beam:

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The feed wires appearing from the conduit adjacent to the fascia beam which will hold the strips of LEDs:

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The three separate strips of LEDs attached to the inside of the fascia as described; connected by soldered wires as per last time:

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Just waiting for the plug of plaster filling an exploratory hole to dry. This cold weather doesn’t half slow things down…

A test:

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……before returning the ensemble to the modelling room:

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No more conspicuous lighting:

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Now to pick a battery to power up the remote that accompanies the set, to make everything a little ‘warmer’.

Now I can at last turn to the ballasting.

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
With an hour or so to spare this evening, I decided to make a (brief) start on track scenics i.e. the ash surface between adjacent tracks and their edges. To this end, I’m using the residue/remains of a barbecue which I’d salvaged a couple of years ago for the purpose.

Now, I have to admit that apart from a trial with the odd section of track, I’ve never ballasted a layout before, thus had decided to take things slowly, so that in the event it all going awry, there wouldn’t be too much much clearing up to do before making a fresh start. I’m trusting that by adopting this glacial approach, I can also record the process to the benefit of one or two kind members who’ve expressed an interest in this aspect of modelling (or serve as a warning to look elsewhere for guidance!).

First a look at some of the ‘tools/materials’ I’ll be using.


To the right in the Tupperware box is the raw barbecue remnants, which are far too course for the purpose, so a small amount is transferred to an earthenware pot and crushed using an ornamental ‘cork’, the metal ball at the base I found ideal for the purpose, and which can be seen to the top left of the picture. The refined material is then transferred to a tin lid via a tea strainer to ensure its as fine as I can make it, and which can be seen to the left of the picture:

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The tracks adjacent to the area to be treated were masked off and a suitable amount of neat Pva transferred to a palette:

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Tests had shown that to apply the glue in a 50:50 mix with water via a pipette as per ballasting, rendered the ash too tough to sand to a finer appearance (the ash being a little too granular even its finer form, if left, for the purpose), the process being a little easier to achieve if the glue was applied first and the residue sprinkled on. The thinner coat of residue left behind with this method after the loose material at the surface was hoovered off, also helped achieve a finer and more unified appearance than using the ballasting method as described.

I then applied the glue, again as described, and began sprinkling on the ash residue with the small medicine spoon shown. However, the spread was too wide, so a more controlled applier was adopted in the form of some folded paper into which the residue was spooned, and then sprinkled on:

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Only a short section was applied at a time to ensure the glue didn’t go off:

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……….after which the ash was tamped down gently with a finger to ensure good adhesion, and then the masking tape removed:

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I’ll let this dry, then on my next visit I’ll hoover off the loose material on the top and give it a light sanding. Then I’ll inspect the outcome to see if it’s achieved the same results as my tests.

I’ll let you know how it went, either way.

jonte
 

Joe's Garage

Western Thunderer
Hi Jonte
This is one of the many reasons I enjoy this Forum, the sharing of so many techniques as they progress.
Look forward to seeing more.
Best wishes
Julian
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
I returned to my den earlier to continue my quest i.e. attempting to replicate the finer ash surface in between and adjacent to the tracks.

First I hoovered the surface with a nozzle to remove the excess layer:

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……..then I set about disturbing the residue (which hadn’t quite adhered which is part of the glitter spattering type process) with a paint, collecting it in the nozzle of the vacuum cleaner as before:

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……which leaves it looking like this:

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Then it was sanded down using only the lightest of pressure to take away the last of the sandpaper look, and the rest of the residue hoovered up:

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………and what it looks like under the LEDs:

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Hopefully I’ve captured the slightly textured look of the real thing which looks much finer now after the treatment; I’ll let you decide.

Next, will come some dark washes to tone it all down.

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
A slight change of tack.

I like the effect rendered when the ballast is laid over the glue and tamped down:

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I like the compacted look, but the problem with it being thicker in profile is that it can overwhelm the fine sleepers of the Streamline track, something I vehemently wanted to avoid (same with the ballast).

So, removing the masking tape as gently as possible so as not to disturb the edge too much, I noticed that it didn’t envelope the edge of the sleepers as much as I’d thought, the sections that did being either carefully swept away with a paint brush or tamped back down:

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The section to the right of the foreground is chunkier than the rest due to a lack of concentration that found me applying unrefined powder…………

In this, you can see the slight difference in height and texture between the previously treated section to the right against tonight’s section on the left:

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I think it will be okay.

So how to proceed?

Well, once the base glue has dried, I’ll brush and tamp further as described to compact the surface, then apply a 50:50 Pva/water mix as per ballasting. I’ll see where it goes from there.

jonte
 
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