Johns workbench

[djparkins]

Steady David it wasn't in reference to your question, but to Simons answer to fixing the problems. A bit like if the question was "how do you get to xy or z" the answer being given as "I wouldn't have started from there" however that's not where John finds himself. He has already bought the not inexpensive kits, and apart from binning them, he is faced with making them work, the answer can't surely be just to give up and start again from a better kit - granted yours clearly fit that category!. Apologies if you thought It was in reference to your own valid question.

Bob -

OK - but you should have quoted the post to which you were referring. However in defence of Simon V - who is a colourful and sometimes outspoken contributor [and certainly we always need more of those!], he is not dressing up his views in some kind dishonest polite-speak . To me, he is simply saying what is readily apparent to many [especially from other coach building threads on here] but perhaps we do not have the honesty to say so.

As far as John's options go - well he could still give it up, stick it on Ebay and purchase a metal-bodied kit - and before you jump on me, that does not have to be an MMP kit - there are Westdale, the ex RJH ones, The ex- Classic one - all would surely be a much better starting point than the moulded options around. At least you are starting with a body that is around scale thickness and not made of Chobham Armour!

DJP

 

[Bob Reid]

I doubt though David, irrespective of merit, you would be appreciative of someone calling your kits a "steaming pile of poo"

 

[Simon Varnam]

Come on guys - My comment was meant as tongue in cheek and not offensive.

It honestly makes me wonder why I am sitting here slaving over a hot computer designing what I hope will be accurate kits that go together well with the minimum of fuss.

 

[djparkins]

I doubt though David, irrespective of merit, you would be appreciative of someone calling your kits a "steaming pile of poo"

Your own answer is in the word 'merit'. One mans meat is anothers poison as they say OR [edit] probably more apt here is 'One mans trash is another mans treasure'!

Remember too that in another thread on this forum where a group build of an MMP mineral wagon has been mooted, I have suggested that another manufacturer's kit would be a better subject. By that same token, if John had rung me for advice and said that he thought our own kit was a little daunting, I would have tried to give honest advice about other kit options regardless of there being 'no sale' in it for me. I'm just that kind of guy!!!

 

[Bob Reid]

Just understand this David. I come on here only to help folk at least model these vehicles accurately. I have no interest in getting drawn into conversations about the relative merits or otherwise of one kit over another when someone is looking to make the best of what they've got - I don't need to, as it's quite obvious where the differences lie. What I would recommend to someone making the choice is quite a different matter.

[Edit] I should apologise to John for interrupting his thread - normal service I'm sure will resume!

 

[djparkins]

Hi I'm going to give easybuild a call tomorrow I havs decided what I'm going to do .As I have said before a lot of people seem to have had succes with these kits but to be honest the kit doesn't do it for me I hope that I'm not offending anyone by saying that and I have been looking at David's kits on modeling O guage on line and they do look lovely so I will be ringing you later this week if that's ok David . I sincerely hope that anything I've said in this post hasn't offended anyone
Anyway enough of that let's get modeling
Regards john

Hello John -

No problem - I can talk you through the various metal bodied options as I've built a couple of Westdales, and several each of the ex Classic Models kit and of the ex-RJH kit [being one of my earlier kits].

With Regards,

David

 

[Bob Reid]

No problem John, the information provided applies equally no matter who the supplier is. Maybe David could advise out of interest whether there's the option of symmetric or asymmetric vee hangers provided with his own kits?

Regards,

 

[djparkins]

No problem John, the information provided applies equally no matter who the supplier is. Maybe David could advise out of interest whether there's the option of symmetric or asymmetric vee hangers provided with his own kits?

Regards,

Symmetric in the BG. With other kits of later types [BFK for example] that only had the asymmetric - then this is obviously the version included - but never both, as the way our undeframe is constructed would require there to be a whole set of new parts to include + alterations to the girder work in regard to bracket locations etc.

 

[Bob Reid]

Symmetric in the BG. With other kits of later types [BFK for example] that only had the asymmetric - then this is obviously the version included - but never both, as the way our undeframe is constructed would require there to be a whole set of new parts to include + alterations to the girder work in regard to bracket locations etc.

Fair enough David it being difficult to encompass every variation within one kit.

Regards,

 

[Dog Star]

I come on here only to help folk at least model these vehicles accurately...

I appreciate the help and advice which you give freely for your knowledge of the prototypes as those carriages went through works in the 1980s is without price.

thank you, Graham

 

[Dog Star]

For what it is worth, my son is making a decent fist of the bogies and underframe of his MMP BG... ok we have had soime interesting moments with the instructions and casting details for the bogie bolsters - nothing that was not resolved by a call to David.

From what I can see of the kit as the construction continues there is nothing about the MMP BG that anyone - with the ability to solder cleanly - cannot achieve given time.

regards, Graham

 

[40126]

Lets just play trains

Think everyone has their own opinion, & we are all adults on here. So lets all kiss & make up (But not in a gay way !!). . Its good to have this info on here, of different problems that arise.

Steve

 

[BrushType4]

Think everyone has their own opinion, & we are all adults on here. So lets all kiss & make up (But not in a gay way !!). . Its good to have this info on here, of different problems that arise.

Steve

What's wrong with gay mate?

 

[40126]

....(But not in a gay way !!).

What's wrong with gay mate?

My quote is from Max & Paddy. ,

Im not attacking Gay !! Honestly

Steve

 

[Heather Kay]

Were the original transfers the "pressfix" ones supplied by Parkside? There does seem to be a chunk of carrier film left I wouldn't expect to see.

 

[Bob]

Ooh yes, the replacement ones are much tidier.

 

[lancer1027]

Very nice John. I too prefer HMRS ones. I also think i did ( or Steve did) used them on a couple of his SPV's

Rob

 

[djparkins]

View attachment 23743 I noticed that David Parkins name is on it

It will be on any ex Post-War Prototypes kit! Its a blast from the past seeing this - 28 years now since we released it in the PWP range! £27.50 then!

 

[mth]

Hi John,
Try http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/search.html?q=PTA
The ARC ones didn't have rotary couplings as the were unloaded by grab. The BSS ones did. When i fall out of bed thin afternoon I'll try to take some photo's of the ones i have got.

Here's one i still have on the computer

 

[mickoo]

I believe the rotary ones worked in wales somewhere? and were dark grey overall and the end with the rotating coupling was painted a sort of orange colour, not sure how they rotated the ones with conventional couplings at each end mind, the trainling one is easy enough as there's nowt attached to the conventional gear, but the leading one would be attached to the prime mover.

The sets could be as long or short as required, so long as there were wagons with conventional couplings at either end. The train could be 6 x 5 wagon sets or a complete 30 wagon set.