spikey faz
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Really enjoyed the video. 
Mike
Mike
Weathered Locos & Stock
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NewportRod
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I hope this is okay but during the video I jotted down some notes the materials that Neill was using
Windsor and Newton Winton oil colours: titanium white, ivory black and raw umber; Artists oil colours Brown ochre and Indian red
Humbrol enamels Matt 160 Matt 33 Matt 119
Omen Miniatures Super-matt water-based modelling paint : underframe dirt, oily black and dirty black.
Vallejo pigments dark yellow ochre and natural oxide
Humbrol powder - Earth brown
Dry brush for axle boxes Ivory black
Roof Omen Miniatures worn tarmac
Windsor and Newton Winton oil colours: titanium white, ivory black and raw umber; Artists oil colours Brown ochre and Indian red
Humbrol enamels Matt 160 Matt 33 Matt 119
Omen Miniatures Super-matt water-based modelling paint : underframe dirt, oily black and dirty black.
Vallejo pigments dark yellow ochre and natural oxide
Humbrol powder - Earth brown
Dry brush for axle boxes Ivory black
Roof Omen Miniatures worn tarmac
Podartist79
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Thanks Mike,Really enjoyed the video.
Mike
Really scratching the surface of what I make quite a complicated and in depth thing.
Neil.
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spikey faz
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Hi Neil
Did you use the same paints etc on the 4f as to what you used on the Dapol wagon? The finish you achieved on the 4f is brilliant and something I'd love to be able to emulate on my own locos.
Mike
Podartist79
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I did Mike.
Roger Pound
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That 4F really takes me back to my earlier days when I worked in Coalville, Leicestershire. The local shed, 17C, then altered firstly to 15D and finally to 15E, was always well stocked with these every-day workers, both those allocated there and others from far and near. I had the pleasure of an unofficial footplate trip from Coalville East to Shepshed on one and discovered first hand how draughty it was when travelling tender first! Once again a beautifully rendered reproduction of a very well-known otherwise mundane class.
Roger.
Roger.
Podartist79
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Thank you Roger.
Podartist79
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Another ‘work horse’ weathering job completed, only a much larger loco this time; another Lee Marsh 9F.
I’ve said it before but it’s a real pleasure to work on such a superb model.
I’ve really enjoyed adding the many varied textures and tones to the model. All were copied directly from one main reference.
I’ve said it before but it’s a real pleasure to work on such a superb model.
I’ve really enjoyed adding the many varied textures and tones to the model. All were copied directly from one main reference.
Arun Sharma
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That looks awfully like a real engine to me - are you sure you haven't mixed up the pics of the model and the prototype?
michael mott
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Hi Neil, I had to go back and watch the video after looking ad this newest loco, you make the work look so easy but like everything, I can see that you have spent many hours doing this work and you skill level at this art is exceptional. thanks for sharing some of it with us.
Michael
Michael
Podartist79
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Very kind of you Both, thank you.
It helps Michael that I had a ‘career’ painting on canvas before this and so from a very young child until now, I’ve gained a great deal of experience with colour, tone and texture.
I’m now applying it to 3 dimensional things but using the same ways of looking - and actually painting - as I did on canvas.
It also helps that the canvas - in this case a wonderful Lee Marsh model - is such a great starting point.
It helps Michael that I had a ‘career’ painting on canvas before this and so from a very young child until now, I’ve gained a great deal of experience with colour, tone and texture.
I’m now applying it to 3 dimensional things but using the same ways of looking - and actually painting - as I did on canvas.
It also helps that the canvas - in this case a wonderful Lee Marsh model - is such a great starting point.
Roger Pound
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Wonderful job on the 9F. Very subtle work indeed - a prototype in that condition in my old stamping grounds in the East Midlands would have been considered 'clean' .
Roger
Roger
jonte
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Another wonderful project, Neil.
May I enquire as to how you achieved the ‘mottled’ effect around the windows, boiler, rods and under frame etc, please?
I’m guessing you stippled it with a brush, if so, which type? Perhaps you cut the ends off the bristles to create a fan effect which I’ve tried myself in the past? Is the medium paint or powder? If paint, I’m guessing most of the paint has to be removed from the brush before application; if powder, I’m plumping for it being applied in liquid form, either mixed with water or thinners?
Apologies for all the questions, and of course, as you’re a commercial ‘weatherer’, I’ll understand if you’re reluctant to be quite so specific about your methods, but I’m always curious about those employed by other modellers.
Cheers.
jonte
May I enquire as to how you achieved the ‘mottled’ effect around the windows, boiler, rods and under frame etc, please?
I’m guessing you stippled it with a brush, if so, which type? Perhaps you cut the ends off the bristles to create a fan effect which I’ve tried myself in the past? Is the medium paint or powder? If paint, I’m guessing most of the paint has to be removed from the brush before application; if powder, I’m plumping for it being applied in liquid form, either mixed with water or thinners?
Apologies for all the questions, and of course, as you’re a commercial ‘weatherer’, I’ll understand if you’re reluctant to be quite so specific about your methods, but I’m always curious about those employed by other modellers.
Cheers.
jonte
Podartist79
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Thank you All for your very kind comments.
Around the windows are about three layers;
I apply a coat of grime, in oils, then wipe most of it off. Whilst wet/tacky with a soft small brush I lay weathering powders over the top - but faintly - they adhere to the paint. I then - in this case because the loco is pretty clean - add a further layer of black (base colour of the loco, oils) but dry brushed, so it doesn’t obliterate all areas previously weathered.
The chassis is over sprayed by airbrush with a base colour (I use a lot of Humbrol 32 and 98). Before this dries - or dries in its entirety - I apply weathering powders, stippled as you suggested, into the airbrushed paint. After that, due to chassis being generally filthy, once dry I add further paint, over those previous layers; much, I guess, as would happen in real life.
To add another chassis grime layer I will flick it over (dry brush) with a very dry either black or weathering colour mix just to highlight areas and therefore add another visual element.
Hope this helps.
The effect around the cab windows etc Jonte is all done with paint layers.
Around the windows are about three layers;
I apply a coat of grime, in oils, then wipe most of it off. Whilst wet/tacky with a soft small brush I lay weathering powders over the top - but faintly - they adhere to the paint. I then - in this case because the loco is pretty clean - add a further layer of black (base colour of the loco, oils) but dry brushed, so it doesn’t obliterate all areas previously weathered.
The chassis is over sprayed by airbrush with a base colour (I use a lot of Humbrol 32 and 98). Before this dries - or dries in its entirety - I apply weathering powders, stippled as you suggested, into the airbrushed paint. After that, due to chassis being generally filthy, once dry I add further paint, over those previous layers; much, I guess, as would happen in real life.
To add another chassis grime layer I will flick it over (dry brush) with a very dry either black or weathering colour mix just to highlight areas and therefore add another visual element.
Hope this helps.
jonte
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Many thanks, Neil, for sharing and for a most comprehensive account.
Very interesting, especially with regard to the ‘layering’, which, whilst protracted, can be appreciated in the ‘Senior Scales’.
Wonderful stuff.
Thanks once again,
Jon
Podartist79
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Merry Christmas All
One of two weathering jobs I completed before the ‘big day’; a Lee Marsh Dean Goods in Edwardian livery.
Every surface of this model has been treated-weathered. Of course, much of that weathering has been ‘cleaned’ then the surfaces buffed to give the effect(s) you see here.
I say it every time, but it is an exceptional RTR model and a treat to work on.
One of two weathering jobs I completed before the ‘big day’; a Lee Marsh Dean Goods in Edwardian livery.
Every surface of this model has been treated-weathered. Of course, much of that weathering has been ‘cleaned’ then the surfaces buffed to give the effect(s) you see here.
I say it every time, but it is an exceptional RTR model and a treat to work on.
Podartist79
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The second completed weathering task is this David Andrews A2 kit built loco.
It has graced these pages (WT) before in Mick Davies thread and possibly Warren Heywood’s.
Mick Davies built the loco, Warren Heywood undertook the painting.
It has graced these pages (WT) before in Mick Davies thread and possibly Warren Heywood’s.
Mick Davies built the loco, Warren Heywood undertook the painting.
Heather Kay
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I would doff my cap to you, but I can’t find it at the moment. Very nice work indeed.
Podartist79
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Very kind Heather, thank you.