Prototype Tim Mills' Photos
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oldravendale
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Great - I now have the full complement of info for at least one of my photos so thanks Martin @Martin Shaw .
Thanks for picking up on that wagon, Adam @AJC . If there's more information to come I look forward to it...
You are correct, Larry @LarryG - at least that was my experience too. I have photos of at least one and possibly more in store with sacking over the chimney in Kentish Town Shed.
A push-pull fitted version of the Fowler 3P 2-6-2T is 40043 at Willesden shed on 15th May 1960. The loco had been allocated to Willesden since June 1958, went in to store in May 1959 and was withdrawn in November the same year so is another which was no longer in capital stock at the time of the photo. (SLS). It arrived at Stratford Works for scrapping in May 1960 (RO), a task completed in the same month. (BR Database).
A lovely model builders shot of the cab interior of Castle Class 5049 Earl of Plymouth outside the Factory at Old Oak Shed on 15th May 1960. It had been on the allocation of Newton Abbot since July 1958 but was on the cusp of moving to Bristol Bath Road which it did in the month of the photo. It finally moved to St Philips Marsh in September 1960 where it was withdrawn in April 1963. (SLS). Scrapping followed at Cashmore’s, Newport in April 1964. (BR Database).
Two Castles here in the Factory at Old Oak on 15th May 1960. These are 5082 Swordfish and 5043 Earl of Mount Edgecumbe. Swordfish was previously in post #2539. It had lived at Old Oak since November 1952 and was withdrawn in July 1962. (SLS). It was scrapped in December at Cashmore's, Newport. (BR Database). 5043 has been seen in post #1508 and it had belonged to Old Oak since February 1956, then Cardiff Canton in April before going to Cardiff East Dock in September 1962 and withdrawal in December 1963. (SLS). It then went to Barry Scrapyard and I believe is now owned by 7029 Clun Castle. See: 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe
Castle Class 5032 Usk Castle with some friends at Old Oak Shed on 15th May 1960. The loco was allocated to Old Oak in March 1960 and withdrawn in September 1962. (SLS). It was scrapped at Cashmore’s. Great Bridge in November 1962. (BR Database).
Brian
Thanks for picking up on that wagon, Adam @AJC . If there's more information to come I look forward to it...
You are correct, Larry @LarryG - at least that was my experience too. I have photos of at least one and possibly more in store with sacking over the chimney in Kentish Town Shed.
A push-pull fitted version of the Fowler 3P 2-6-2T is 40043 at Willesden shed on 15th May 1960. The loco had been allocated to Willesden since June 1958, went in to store in May 1959 and was withdrawn in November the same year so is another which was no longer in capital stock at the time of the photo. (SLS). It arrived at Stratford Works for scrapping in May 1960 (RO), a task completed in the same month. (BR Database).
A lovely model builders shot of the cab interior of Castle Class 5049 Earl of Plymouth outside the Factory at Old Oak Shed on 15th May 1960. It had been on the allocation of Newton Abbot since July 1958 but was on the cusp of moving to Bristol Bath Road which it did in the month of the photo. It finally moved to St Philips Marsh in September 1960 where it was withdrawn in April 1963. (SLS). Scrapping followed at Cashmore’s, Newport in April 1964. (BR Database).
Two Castles here in the Factory at Old Oak on 15th May 1960. These are 5082 Swordfish and 5043 Earl of Mount Edgecumbe. Swordfish was previously in post #2539. It had lived at Old Oak since November 1952 and was withdrawn in July 1962. (SLS). It was scrapped in December at Cashmore's, Newport. (BR Database). 5043 has been seen in post #1508 and it had belonged to Old Oak since February 1956, then Cardiff Canton in April before going to Cardiff East Dock in September 1962 and withdrawal in December 1963. (SLS). It then went to Barry Scrapyard and I believe is now owned by 7029 Clun Castle. See: 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe
Castle Class 5032 Usk Castle with some friends at Old Oak Shed on 15th May 1960. The loco was allocated to Old Oak in March 1960 and withdrawn in September 1962. (SLS). It was scrapped at Cashmore’s. Great Bridge in November 1962. (BR Database).
Brian
Martin Shaw
Western Thunderer
Brian
Some GWR completism.
5049 Earl of Plymouth Worcester 8/5/36, Denbigh Castle renamed 27/8/37, Cardiff Canton 13/8/39, Laira 12/56, Newton Abbott 24/7/58,
Bristol Bath Rd 22/4/60, St Philips Marsh 16/9/60, Wdn 22/3/63, Cut up Cashmore Newport.
5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe Old Oak 13/3/36, Barbury Castle renamed 10/9/37, 6/52 Carmarthen, 2/56 Old Oak, Cardiff Canton 21/4/62,
Cardiff East Dock 7/9/62, Wdn 16/12/63.
5082 Swordfish Bristol Bath Road 16/6/39, Powis Castle renamed 1/41, Weston Super Mare 4/44, Bristol Bath Road 5/44, Old Oak 7/11/52,
Wdn 2/7/62, Cut up Cashmore Great Bridge.
5032 Usk Castle Shrewsbury 5/6/34, Stafford Rd 11/51, Newton Abbott 20/3/58, Old Oak 4/3/60, Wdn 7/9/62, Cut up Cashmore Great Bridge.
Some GWR completism.
5049 Earl of Plymouth Worcester 8/5/36, Denbigh Castle renamed 27/8/37, Cardiff Canton 13/8/39, Laira 12/56, Newton Abbott 24/7/58,
Bristol Bath Rd 22/4/60, St Philips Marsh 16/9/60, Wdn 22/3/63, Cut up Cashmore Newport.
5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe Old Oak 13/3/36, Barbury Castle renamed 10/9/37, 6/52 Carmarthen, 2/56 Old Oak, Cardiff Canton 21/4/62,
Cardiff East Dock 7/9/62, Wdn 16/12/63.
5082 Swordfish Bristol Bath Road 16/6/39, Powis Castle renamed 1/41, Weston Super Mare 4/44, Bristol Bath Road 5/44, Old Oak 7/11/52,
Wdn 2/7/62, Cut up Cashmore Great Bridge.
5032 Usk Castle Shrewsbury 5/6/34, Stafford Rd 11/51, Newton Abbott 20/3/58, Old Oak 4/3/60, Wdn 7/9/62, Cut up Cashmore Great Bridge.
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I'd not have known that info about 40043, Larry, so thanks.
Also Martin, for completing the stories of the Castles.
Rebuilt Royal Scot 46119 Lancashire Fusilier carrying shed code 1B for Camden at Euston Station on the Euston to Heysham Harbour boat train on 24th July 1958. This was one of the photos I discussed in detail with Tim. He was on his way to Northern Ireland for an extended stay with his family – his father worked on occasion in Ireland. The rest of the family went by car but there wasn’t room for Tim and the cat so they went by train. Tim met his best friend to see him off at the station, a chap by the name of Ron Smith. He took many photos of similar layout to Tim so they clearly travelled together quite a lot. Ron's collection is now lodged with the Transport Treasury. 46119 was an Edge Hill loco from early November 1958 and was withdrawn from there in November 1963. (SLS). It was recorded in the Paint Shop Yard at Crewe on 15th November 1963 (SLS) and was disposed of at Crewe Works by the end of the month. (Rail UK).
Edit. A correction to the original commentary which proposed the loco to be West Country 34034 Honiton although the evidence confirms this to be Battle of Britain 34084 253 Squadron. This was probably photographed in 1958 but it’s at an unspecified location. Dave @Yorkshire Dave has advised that we've come across this headcode previously as either Victoria and Dover via Herne Hill or Catford Loop and Chatham or Reading and Margate via Redhill. As it's on the same roll as the train at Welling (img3936) which follows it in this post I'd say it's on A Victoria service and could be anywhere between Dover and Chatham. This assumes the WC/BoB frame precedes the U1 at Welling going by the shadows which appear longer in the U1 photo with the sun being lower in the western sky.
The Battle of Britain was allocated to Stewarts Lane when new in November 1948, Dover Marine in April 1958, Exmouth Junction November 1960 where it was put in to store in May 1963, Bournemouth May 1963, Back to Exmouth Junction in November 1963 and Eastleigh September 1964 where it was withdrawn in October 1965. (SLS). It was scrapped in March 1966 (BR Database) at Buttigeigs, Newport. (RO).
Seen previously in post #3342 and on the same roll of film as the photo above so probably also in 1958, but again at an unspecified location is what I read as U1 31902 and although the shed code is a bit indistinct I read that as 73B, Bricklayers Arms which is fortunate as the loco was allocated there in June 1955, went in to store in October and was reinstated in June 1956, not moving to Tonbridge until June 1959 and finally Exmouth Junction where it was withdrawn in November 1962. (SLS). It was scrapped at Eastleigh Works week ending 5 January 1963. (RO).
Sticking still with probably 1958 here are two photos, one original and the second remasked, of Standard Class 4 2-6-4T 80100 at Fenchurch Street Station. The loco was allocated to Plaistow when new in January 1955, then Tilbury in November 1959, Stratford in June and Shrewsbury in July or August 1962 where it was withdrawn in July 1965. (SLS). It was seen in Barry Scrap Yard on 6th February 1966 and 7th July 1968 (SLS) and eventually went in to preservation, although very little has happened to it since – see 80100
Brian
Also Martin, for completing the stories of the Castles.
Rebuilt Royal Scot 46119 Lancashire Fusilier carrying shed code 1B for Camden at Euston Station on the Euston to Heysham Harbour boat train on 24th July 1958. This was one of the photos I discussed in detail with Tim. He was on his way to Northern Ireland for an extended stay with his family – his father worked on occasion in Ireland. The rest of the family went by car but there wasn’t room for Tim and the cat so they went by train. Tim met his best friend to see him off at the station, a chap by the name of Ron Smith. He took many photos of similar layout to Tim so they clearly travelled together quite a lot. Ron's collection is now lodged with the Transport Treasury. 46119 was an Edge Hill loco from early November 1958 and was withdrawn from there in November 1963. (SLS). It was recorded in the Paint Shop Yard at Crewe on 15th November 1963 (SLS) and was disposed of at Crewe Works by the end of the month. (Rail UK).
Edit. A correction to the original commentary which proposed the loco to be West Country 34034 Honiton although the evidence confirms this to be Battle of Britain 34084 253 Squadron. This was probably photographed in 1958 but it’s at an unspecified location. Dave @Yorkshire Dave has advised that we've come across this headcode previously as either Victoria and Dover via Herne Hill or Catford Loop and Chatham or Reading and Margate via Redhill. As it's on the same roll as the train at Welling (img3936) which follows it in this post I'd say it's on A Victoria service and could be anywhere between Dover and Chatham. This assumes the WC/BoB frame precedes the U1 at Welling going by the shadows which appear longer in the U1 photo with the sun being lower in the western sky.
The Battle of Britain was allocated to Stewarts Lane when new in November 1948, Dover Marine in April 1958, Exmouth Junction November 1960 where it was put in to store in May 1963, Bournemouth May 1963, Back to Exmouth Junction in November 1963 and Eastleigh September 1964 where it was withdrawn in October 1965. (SLS). It was scrapped in March 1966 (BR Database) at Buttigeigs, Newport. (RO).
Seen previously in post #3342 and on the same roll of film as the photo above so probably also in 1958, but again at an unspecified location is what I read as U1 31902 and although the shed code is a bit indistinct I read that as 73B, Bricklayers Arms which is fortunate as the loco was allocated there in June 1955, went in to store in October and was reinstated in June 1956, not moving to Tonbridge until June 1959 and finally Exmouth Junction where it was withdrawn in November 1962. (SLS). It was scrapped at Eastleigh Works week ending 5 January 1963. (RO).
Sticking still with probably 1958 here are two photos, one original and the second remasked, of Standard Class 4 2-6-4T 80100 at Fenchurch Street Station. The loco was allocated to Plaistow when new in January 1955, then Tilbury in November 1959, Stratford in June and Shrewsbury in July or August 1962 where it was withdrawn in July 1965. (SLS). It was seen in Barry Scrap Yard on 6th February 1966 and 7th July 1968 (SLS) and eventually went in to preservation, although very little has happened to it since – see 80100
Brian
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James Spooner
Western Thunderer
Brian,
I was interested by your reference to Ron Smith. During the mid 1980s I lived in Braintree, as did Ron, and we both commuted to Liverpool Street, generally returning on the 18:02. He had taken quite a few photos and later passed them over to the Transport Treasury for safekeeping. Some of his photos were of Braintree subjects but, in the late 1950s he had worked for British Railways at Stratford and so some of the subjects covered steam there. If I recall correctly he was also planning a 4mm S4 railway and once showed me a D&S carriage kit he had made up as a part of that plan. We lost touch when my work took me south of the Thames, but happy memories of forty years ago! Sorry for the thread drift!
Nigel
I was interested by your reference to Ron Smith. During the mid 1980s I lived in Braintree, as did Ron, and we both commuted to Liverpool Street, generally returning on the 18:02. He had taken quite a few photos and later passed them over to the Transport Treasury for safekeeping. Some of his photos were of Braintree subjects but, in the late 1950s he had worked for British Railways at Stratford and so some of the subjects covered steam there. If I recall correctly he was also planning a 4mm S4 railway and once showed me a D&S carriage kit he had made up as a part of that plan. We lost touch when my work took me south of the Thames, but happy memories of forty years ago! Sorry for the thread drift!
Nigel
John Palmer
Active Member
Rather than 34034 Honiton, is it possible that img3935 instead shows 34084 253 Squadron? I'm a bit puzzled to see a locomotive allocated to South Western Division sheds from October 1950 until withdrawal at the head of a train in third rail territory, and in this respect 253 Squadron, a South Eastern Division engine until 1960, seems to fit the bill better. Additional factors shaping this suggestion are the apparently elliptical shape of the crest plate (cf right-angled upper corners to Honiton's shield) and the profile of the leading carriage in the train, which to my eyes looks distinctly Restriction 1 rather than the Restriction 4 profile that would be commonplace in West of England trains.
Img3937 has as its leading vehicle a LMS Diagram 1685 Lavatory Brake Third with panelling apparently wholly intact, which I guess was uncommon by 1958. Behind the brake are two carriages that appear to have turn-buckle underframe trussing, suggesting their design pre-dates Grouping. Might they be 8-compartment 48' Thirds to Midland Diagram 1222? Sixteen such Thirds were constructed in 1921 as part of a total of 28 48' vehicles for Fenchurch St-Southend services, which may also be a pointer to their identity.
Img3937 has as its leading vehicle a LMS Diagram 1685 Lavatory Brake Third with panelling apparently wholly intact, which I guess was uncommon by 1958. Behind the brake are two carriages that appear to have turn-buckle underframe trussing, suggesting their design pre-dates Grouping. Might they be 8-compartment 48' Thirds to Midland Diagram 1222? Sixteen such Thirds were constructed in 1921 as part of a total of 28 48' vehicles for Fenchurch St-Southend services, which may also be a pointer to their identity.
I think the Bulleid also has the wider cab of the later-built locos.
Arun Sharma
Western Thunderer
I agree, the name plate has the shape of a BB one rather than WC. The BB name plate is designed to look like an aircraft's wing with clipped wing tips. I also agree with 40057's comment regarding the wider cabs that were fitted to 34064 onwards.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Seen previously in post #3342 and on the same roll of film as the photo above so probably also in 1958, but again at an unspecified location is what I read as U1 31902 and although the shed code is a bit indistinct I read that as 73B, Bricklayers Arms which is fortunate as the loco was allocated there in June 1955, went in to store in October and was reinstated in June 1956, not moving to Tonbridge until June 1959 and finally Exmouth Junction where it was withdrawn in November 1962. (SLS). It was scrapped at Eastleigh Works week ending 5 January 1963. (RO).
As we're on electrified lines the headcode carried by this loco is Victoria, Stewarts Lane or Holborn via Nunhead line and Bexleyheath or trains travelling via Bexleyheath. This effectively routes us from the originating station up to Strood, then via Gravesend Central, Dartford and Bexleyheath
After some digging around looking at stations from Bexleyheath towards Nunhead I think this is Welling, facing east. Welling is on a curve and slightly elevated on an embankment. Looking down under the awning there appears to be two profiles and Welling appears to fit this. Welling
West Country 34034 Honiton probably photographed in 1958 but it’s at an unspecified location. This was an Exmouth Junction engine in March 1952, rebuilt in August 1960 and then allocated to Eastleigh in November 1961 going finally to Nine Elms where it was withdrawn on 2nd July 1967. (SLS). It was photographed intact at Cashmore’s, Newport, on 2nd April 1968. (WHTS and RO). It was scrapped later the same month. (BR Database).
We've come across this headcode previously as either Victoria and Dover via Herne Hill or Catford Loop and Chatham or Reading and Margate via Redhill. As it's on the same roll as the train at Welling I'd say it's on A Victoria service and could be anywhere between Dover and Chatham. This assumes the WC/BoB frame precedes the U1 at Welling going by the shadows which appear longer in the U1 photo with the sun being lower in the western sky.
Martin Shaw
Western Thunderer
If it is 34084 which seems most likely then it was a Dover engine at the time which makes Dave's first choice of route more probable.
Martin
Martin
John Palmer
Active Member
Having looked again at the arrangement of the vents above the doors I agree - a much better assessment than my suggestion that they are ex-Midland vehicles. Diagrams 56 and 57 seem to fit well with the observable characteristics. They look a bit wider than the ex-LMS BTL at the head, so perhaps the 9' 3" wide Diagram 57 version?
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I'm convinced that's the same Ron Smith, Nigel @James Spooner. The geography is exactly right and Tim was originally an Essex boy. Putting these things together with Ron's collection being at the Transport Treasury makes the possibility really convincing. Sadly Ron died a few years ago, at around the same time as Tim but he was an accomplished photographer, of that there's no doubt. In the circumstances it's entirely reasonable to think you may have met Tim!
I think you are correct about Honiton, John @John Palmer so thank you and John @40057 for providing a further clue. Then the same thanks to Arun, Dave @Yorkshire Dave and Martin @Martin Shaw for further convincing evidence. In fact I'm so convinced I'll be changing the commentary by way of an edit. Thanks too, John, for your info about the coaching stock and the further info from Simon @65179 and your own additional comments.
Finally, Dave @Yorkshire Dave for the info including potential location for the U1 photo. It'll be added to the file.
Britannia 70007 Coeur de Lion on a down fast train from Liverpool Street Station on 9th January 1960. At the time it was a Norwich Thorpe engine where it was allocated in May 1951, March in December 1961 and Carlisle Kingmoor in December 1963 where it was withdrawn in June 1965. (SLS). It was scrapped at Crewe Works in July 1965. (BR Database).
Celebrated B12 4-6-0 61572 at Liverpool Street with what looks like a 32B Ipswich shed plate probably in 1958. The loco was allocated to Ipswich from March 1953 (BR Database) and then Norwich Thorpe in October 1959, being withdrawn in September 1961. (SLS). Details of the life thereafter are at
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Information is somewhat limited for this photo. I believe the locos to be Fairburn 2-6-4T 42234 and Standard Class 4 4-6-0 75036. The location is probably Euston and date is some time in 1961. This would all fit – 42234 has featured in post #1551 previously where the photograph was taken at Willesden in February 1961. I have a photo of this loco being scrapped at Willesden in October 1964. As far as I can establish the responsible party is unknown (RO) but it may well have been BR staff or even, perhaps, shed staff. BR Database advises its last shed as Rugby in December 1957 (I suppose it could have been visiting Willesden from Rugby when Tim's previous photo was taken). SLS gives the last allocation as Willesden from December 1957, then on loan to Longsight in February 1958 and ex-loan in the same accounting period, so it may never have physically left Willesden. However, Rail UK advises the final allocation as Willesden and withdrawal in February 1964. WHTS advises that the loco was in store at Willesden from January to October 1964 and there were several sightings during that period.
75036, if that’s what it is, fits quite neatly, as it was new to Bletchley in August 1953 and didn’t move until July 1961 when it went to Llandudno Junction, then Nuneaton in November 1962 or July 1963 and finally Stoke in October the same year where it was withdrawn in June 1966. (SLS). It then went to Bird’s, Long Marston where it was cut up in the following August. (BR Database).
A 4F 0-6-0, 44294, and an unidentified Black 5 at Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961. The 4F had been at Kentish Town since March 1959, moved to Cricklewood in September 1962, Toton in March and Warrington Dallam in November 1963. (SLS). It was withdrawn in November 1965 (SLS) and scrapped at Cashmore’s Great Bridge in July 1966. (BR Database).
Brian
I think you are correct about Honiton, John @John Palmer so thank you and John @40057 for providing a further clue. Then the same thanks to Arun, Dave @Yorkshire Dave and Martin @Martin Shaw for further convincing evidence. In fact I'm so convinced I'll be changing the commentary by way of an edit. Thanks too, John, for your info about the coaching stock and the further info from Simon @65179 and your own additional comments.
Finally, Dave @Yorkshire Dave for the info including potential location for the U1 photo. It'll be added to the file.
Britannia 70007 Coeur de Lion on a down fast train from Liverpool Street Station on 9th January 1960. At the time it was a Norwich Thorpe engine where it was allocated in May 1951, March in December 1961 and Carlisle Kingmoor in December 1963 where it was withdrawn in June 1965. (SLS). It was scrapped at Crewe Works in July 1965. (BR Database).
Celebrated B12 4-6-0 61572 at Liverpool Street with what looks like a 32B Ipswich shed plate probably in 1958. The loco was allocated to Ipswich from March 1953 (BR Database) and then Norwich Thorpe in October 1959, being withdrawn in September 1961. (SLS). Details of the life thereafter are at
61572 (LNER 8572, LNER 7486, LNER 1572 & BR 61572)
61572 is the only British inside cylinder 4-6-0 to be preserved. 61572 was built by Beyer Peacock & Co Ltd and entered service in August 1928 as GER number 8572. It was built as a one of the la…
preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com
Information is somewhat limited for this photo. I believe the locos to be Fairburn 2-6-4T 42234 and Standard Class 4 4-6-0 75036. The location is probably Euston and date is some time in 1961. This would all fit – 42234 has featured in post #1551 previously where the photograph was taken at Willesden in February 1961. I have a photo of this loco being scrapped at Willesden in October 1964. As far as I can establish the responsible party is unknown (RO) but it may well have been BR staff or even, perhaps, shed staff. BR Database advises its last shed as Rugby in December 1957 (I suppose it could have been visiting Willesden from Rugby when Tim's previous photo was taken). SLS gives the last allocation as Willesden from December 1957, then on loan to Longsight in February 1958 and ex-loan in the same accounting period, so it may never have physically left Willesden. However, Rail UK advises the final allocation as Willesden and withdrawal in February 1964. WHTS advises that the loco was in store at Willesden from January to October 1964 and there were several sightings during that period.
75036, if that’s what it is, fits quite neatly, as it was new to Bletchley in August 1953 and didn’t move until July 1961 when it went to Llandudno Junction, then Nuneaton in November 1962 or July 1963 and finally Stoke in October the same year where it was withdrawn in June 1966. (SLS). It then went to Bird’s, Long Marston where it was cut up in the following August. (BR Database).
A 4F 0-6-0, 44294, and an unidentified Black 5 at Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961. The 4F had been at Kentish Town since March 1959, moved to Cricklewood in September 1962, Toton in March and Warrington Dallam in November 1963. (SLS). It was withdrawn in November 1965 (SLS) and scrapped at Cashmore’s Great Bridge in July 1966. (BR Database).
Brian
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oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I've been able to correct the original post above but I'm still getting an "Oops" message when I try to cancel this one. Hope it'll all be better tomorrow...
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oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Thank you, Mick @mickoo . I apologise for not checking my work about the Brit - for some reason yesterday the site wasn't playing ball with my post so I was absorbed in not losing all the info. Now corrected by way of an edit, as has the B12 photo.
Kentish Town on 18th February 1961 and one of my favourite of Tim’s shots. It’s a shame it's been cropped so tight in the camera but I hand cropped this photo to include the feet of the main subject. It looks like one of the fitters or labourers using a steam lance to clean up but it’s so redolent of all steam sheds.
Fowler 4P 2-6-4T 42336 in the gloom of Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961. The loco was allocated to Kentish Town in October 1960, Rowsley in August and back to Kentish Town and immediate withdrawal in October 1962. (SLS). It was observed at Crewe Works on 16th June 1963 (WHTS) and scrapped in the same month. (BR Database).
An unidentifiedBlack 5 Jubilee 4-6-0 at Kentish Town Shed on what was clearly a very overcast and chilly 18th February 1961.
This is Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961 andtwo one unidentified locos. I believe the 2-6-4T The Stanier 2-6-2T is one of the Fairburns now believed to to 40119 and by reference to the photo following this one I believe the Jubilee to be 45569, Tasmania.
This loco was around here before, in post #3452. Jubilee 45569 Tasmania at Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961. The SLS advises the loco was at Carlisle Upperby in March 1956 and was withdrawn from there on 25th April 1964. However, there appears to be a spurious mention of it being further allocated to Patricoft in May - it was photographed in C Shop at Crewe Works in April and was scrapped at Crewe in May 1964. (WHTS and BR Database).
Brian
Kentish Town on 18th February 1961 and one of my favourite of Tim’s shots. It’s a shame it's been cropped so tight in the camera but I hand cropped this photo to include the feet of the main subject. It looks like one of the fitters or labourers using a steam lance to clean up but it’s so redolent of all steam sheds.
Fowler 4P 2-6-4T 42336 in the gloom of Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961. The loco was allocated to Kentish Town in October 1960, Rowsley in August and back to Kentish Town and immediate withdrawal in October 1962. (SLS). It was observed at Crewe Works on 16th June 1963 (WHTS) and scrapped in the same month. (BR Database).
An unidentified
This is Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961 and
This loco was around here before, in post #3452. Jubilee 45569 Tasmania at Kentish Town Shed on 18th February 1961. The SLS advises the loco was at Carlisle Upperby in March 1956 and was withdrawn from there on 25th April 1964. However, there appears to be a spurious mention of it being further allocated to Patricoft in May - it was photographed in C Shop at Crewe Works in April and was scrapped at Crewe in May 1964. (WHTS and BR Database).
Brian
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Roger Pound
Western Thunderer
Brian,
The unidentified 4-6-0 at Kentish Town in #4819 is a Jubilee - the indication of the inside cylinder at the front plus the splashers and chimney confirm. The identity remains unknown but many of the class visited Kentish Town as I am sure you recall.
Roger.
The unidentified 4-6-0 at Kentish Town in #4819 is a Jubilee - the indication of the inside cylinder at the front plus the splashers and chimney confirm. The identity remains unknown but many of the class visited Kentish Town as I am sure you recall.
Roger.