If it’s 1960, then it must be east of Pirbright Junction. The carriage sidings either side of the main line and Tim’s vantage point on what is presumably an over-bridge might suggest it’s just east of Basingstoke, but the presence of shiny third rails would then mean it must be 1966 or 1967.
Prototype Tim Mills' Photos
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Dave Holt
Western Thunderer
At maximum magnification, the MN number looks like 35027 or 35023. The electrified fast lines suggest quite a late date - 1966 on. At that time 35027 had a 5500 gallon tender whereas the photo shows a 6000 gallon type - as attached to 35023. So that gets my vote.
Dave.
Dave.
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Thanks Mike, Martin and David. I should have had the good sense to identify the train from the headcode - I did it once Martin mentioned it and rapidly came to the same conclusion as Mike. The other relevant matter, David, is that this neg may well not be 1960. It's well out of sequence with the others in the pack and may well have randomly fallen in to the 1960 negs. Tim was certainly photographing on the Southern towards the end of Southern steam but I note in this case that the loco still has its name and number plates but possibly no shed plate which dates it as probably not as late as 1967. For those with a greater knowledge of MNs than I these may be clues.
I'm interested, Martin, to know what makes you think this could be Port Line, and I hasten to say that I have no reason to doubt you!
...And while I've been writing this we have the welcome input from Dave H. I have to say that I looked at a blow up of the TIF original and ended with 33083! which I discounted for obvious reasons. My photos in October 1966 show that it had lost its nameplates by then so this photo must be before that date. In November 1965 it still had plates and a shed plate.
Brian
I'm interested, Martin, to know what makes you think this could be Port Line, and I hasten to say that I have no reason to doubt you!
...And while I've been writing this we have the welcome input from Dave H. I have to say that I looked at a blow up of the TIF original and ended with 33083! which I discounted for obvious reasons. My photos in October 1966 show that it had lost its nameplates by then so this photo must be before that date. In November 1965 it still had plates and a shed plate.
Brian
Martin Shaw
Western Thunderer
Brian
Blown up I thought the last numbers to be 27, however Dave's post causes me to doubt myself. I'm not in front of my reference material at the moment but I might be able to shed light on location next week if no one comes up with an answer.
Martin
Blown up I thought the last numbers to be 27, however Dave's post causes me to doubt myself. I'm not in front of my reference material at the moment but I might be able to shed light on location next week if no one comes up with an answer.
Martin
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Thanks Martin.
I have one of 35027 at Bournemouth with nameplates - the smokebox is in shadow so I can't see whether it had smoke box number plate and shed plate - on 6th September 1966. It was withdrawn on September 18th so probably carried the name plates to the end.
I have one of 35027 at Bournemouth with nameplates - the smokebox is in shadow so I can't see whether it had smoke box number plate and shed plate - on 6th September 1966. It was withdrawn on September 18th so probably carried the name plates to the end.
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Once again thanks to all for "having a go" at that rather poor shot of the MN. Having considered overnight I reckon any more time spent on that particular loco will not be justified, so let's move on...
This next series, although taken at Darlington were somewhat later. In fact the info regarding the WD in the last set should be dated 1965 so that has been edited accordingly.
V2 60884 in Darlington Shed in 1965 carrying a 51A, Darlington, shed plate. According to SLS this loco wasn't allocated to Darlington until August 1964 and in 1960 was at Ardsley. It reached Darlington by way of Wakefield, back to Ardsley and then Thornaby. It was withdrawn from Darlington in September 1965. (SLS). It was scrapped at T J Thomson & Sons, Stockton on Tees in October. I can just make out K1 62041 next to the V2; this arrived at Darlington in August 1959 and didn't leave until April 1966.
A4 60034 Lord Farringdon at Darlington in 1965. According to SLS it was at Darlington Works for a Heavy Intermediate from 11th January - 24th April 1965. It's carrying a 61B (Aberdeen Ferryhill) shed plate. It was allocated there in June 1964 as its final shed for use on the Aberdeen - Glasgow trains and withdrawn in August 1966. (SLS). However the SLS also says it was scrapped at Hughes Bolckows, North Blyth, in October 1965. I think this is a typo and should read October 1966.
Class J27 0-6-0 65859 at Darlington in 1965. On 9th September 1963 it was recorded in store at Thornaby. (SLS). SLS advise it moved to its last shed, Darlington, in January and was withdrawn in September 1966. (SLS). BR Database agrees on the withdrawal date but advises the final shed as York North. (BR Database). However, Rail UK advises the last shed as North Blyth although agrees with the withdrawal date and says that it was scrapped at Hughes Bolckows, North Blyth in December with which, in broad terms, WHTS agrees advising that the loco was in store at North Blyth between September and October 1966.
Brian
This next series, although taken at Darlington were somewhat later. In fact the info regarding the WD in the last set should be dated 1965 so that has been edited accordingly.
V2 60884 in Darlington Shed in 1965 carrying a 51A, Darlington, shed plate. According to SLS this loco wasn't allocated to Darlington until August 1964 and in 1960 was at Ardsley. It reached Darlington by way of Wakefield, back to Ardsley and then Thornaby. It was withdrawn from Darlington in September 1965. (SLS). It was scrapped at T J Thomson & Sons, Stockton on Tees in October. I can just make out K1 62041 next to the V2; this arrived at Darlington in August 1959 and didn't leave until April 1966.
A4 60034 Lord Farringdon at Darlington in 1965. According to SLS it was at Darlington Works for a Heavy Intermediate from 11th January - 24th April 1965. It's carrying a 61B (Aberdeen Ferryhill) shed plate. It was allocated there in June 1964 as its final shed for use on the Aberdeen - Glasgow trains and withdrawn in August 1966. (SLS). However the SLS also says it was scrapped at Hughes Bolckows, North Blyth, in October 1965. I think this is a typo and should read October 1966.
Class J27 0-6-0 65859 at Darlington in 1965. On 9th September 1963 it was recorded in store at Thornaby. (SLS). SLS advise it moved to its last shed, Darlington, in January and was withdrawn in September 1966. (SLS). BR Database agrees on the withdrawal date but advises the final shed as York North. (BR Database). However, Rail UK advises the last shed as North Blyth although agrees with the withdrawal date and says that it was scrapped at Hughes Bolckows, North Blyth in December with which, in broad terms, WHTS agrees advising that the loco was in store at North Blyth between September and October 1966.
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Thank you Ken. That rather adds credence to my suggestion of a typo.
So... With today's tasks completed and insufficient time to get anything meaningful done in the workshop I have the opportunity to deal with a few more photos. Initially we'll finish those at Darlington and then it's on to the narrow gauge, with a few "out of order" standard gauge photos thrown in for good measure. Again these are all from roll film negatives so any sort of sequencing is very difficult. I'll add Tim's details to the Welsh narrow gauge photos but no other info as the histories of these locos are well known. Then there will be the Bowaters Paper Mill Railway at Sittingbourne. I'll try to add detail to Tim's original descriptions for these which are scant anyway but in the normal generous fashion of WT please all pile in with comments about all and any.
First A1 60124 Kenilworth at Darlington in 1965 and carrying a Darlington, 51A, shed plate. This was allocated to Darlington in December 1964 and withdrawn from there in March 1966. (SLS). (SLS also advise that the loco was reinstated at York in April but in fact WHTS advises that it was seen at York in a stored condition and therefore probably on the way to its final scrapyard destination.) It went to Drapers at Hull where it was scrapped in May 1966. (BR Database & Rail UK).
Now to the narrow gauge...
The W & L in 1965 with The Countess in steam.
...and on to Portmadoc on the Ffestiniog with Linda at the station.
Standard 2-6-4T 80099 in 1965 at Portmadoc. That shed plate is a bit difficult to decipher but doesn't look like 89C Machynlleth to me. On checking it's probably 6F which Machynlleth had become in 1963. That's where the loco was allocated and it was its final shed being withdrawn in the May of the year this photo was taken. (SLS). It was scrapped in July at Cohens, Morriston.
My personal connection with these locos was when I saw a significant number of them - maybe even including this one - at Old Oak in approximately 1963 after they'd been displaced from the LT & S and, I assume, on their way to Oswestry Works where this loco was recorded by the SLS in November 1963. They were, without exception, in deplorable condition with steam leaks from places they probably didn't even know they had places and clearly in need of works attention. Regrettably I didn't have my camera with me.
Hopefully some more tomorrow and then there'll be a lull as we have visitors over the weekend and well in to next week. It's rude to have one's face buried in the lap top, so I'm told.
Brian
So... With today's tasks completed and insufficient time to get anything meaningful done in the workshop I have the opportunity to deal with a few more photos. Initially we'll finish those at Darlington and then it's on to the narrow gauge, with a few "out of order" standard gauge photos thrown in for good measure. Again these are all from roll film negatives so any sort of sequencing is very difficult. I'll add Tim's details to the Welsh narrow gauge photos but no other info as the histories of these locos are well known. Then there will be the Bowaters Paper Mill Railway at Sittingbourne. I'll try to add detail to Tim's original descriptions for these which are scant anyway but in the normal generous fashion of WT please all pile in with comments about all and any.
First A1 60124 Kenilworth at Darlington in 1965 and carrying a Darlington, 51A, shed plate. This was allocated to Darlington in December 1964 and withdrawn from there in March 1966. (SLS). (SLS also advise that the loco was reinstated at York in April but in fact WHTS advises that it was seen at York in a stored condition and therefore probably on the way to its final scrapyard destination.) It went to Drapers at Hull where it was scrapped in May 1966. (BR Database & Rail UK).
Now to the narrow gauge...
The W & L in 1965 with The Countess in steam.
...and on to Portmadoc on the Ffestiniog with Linda at the station.
Standard 2-6-4T 80099 in 1965 at Portmadoc. That shed plate is a bit difficult to decipher but doesn't look like 89C Machynlleth to me. On checking it's probably 6F which Machynlleth had become in 1963. That's where the loco was allocated and it was its final shed being withdrawn in the May of the year this photo was taken. (SLS). It was scrapped in July at Cohens, Morriston.
My personal connection with these locos was when I saw a significant number of them - maybe even including this one - at Old Oak in approximately 1963 after they'd been displaced from the LT & S and, I assume, on their way to Oswestry Works where this loco was recorded by the SLS in November 1963. They were, without exception, in deplorable condition with steam leaks from places they probably didn't even know they had places and clearly in need of works attention. Regrettably I didn't have my camera with me.
Hopefully some more tomorrow and then there'll be a lull as we have visitors over the weekend and well in to next week. It's rude to have one's face buried in the lap top, so I'm told.
Brian
AJC
Western Thunderer
The MN location is bugging me, because I'm sure that those sheds are familiar. Moving on to Wales, the first W&L picture is at Castell Caereinion/Castle Caereinion, while the other two at at Llanfair Caereinion. I think Linda on the crossing was at Penrhyndeudraeth.
Adam
Adam
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Oh! Sorry Dave.
I wasn't implying whatever it is you think I was implying.
Seriously, though, I really enjoy these in depth investigations but in the case of this photo in particular I felt it was best described as "not one of Tim's best" and perhaps unworthy of more research. I'm certainly not at all offended and will enjoy the outcome of any further details. In fact, on reflection, the most valuable thing may be confirmation of the location.
Brian
I wasn't implying whatever it is you think I was implying.Seriously, though, I really enjoy these in depth investigations but in the case of this photo in particular I felt it was best described as "not one of Tim's best" and perhaps unworthy of more research. I'm certainly not at all offended and will enjoy the outcome of any further details. In fact, on reflection, the most valuable thing may be confirmation of the location.
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Thanks so much for yours, Adam. Yes, the location of the MN photo would be helpful as it's likely there will be more to come - Tim rarely took only one photo in any location.
As for the Welsh NG photos, thanks for adding some crucial information to the descriptions.
Brian
As for the Welsh NG photos, thanks for adding some crucial information to the descriptions.
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Continuing the theme of "Little Railways.
To the Talyllyn and these three are recorded as Dolgoch 1965.
Now a series on the 2ft 6in and standard gauge Bowaters Paper Mill Railway at Sittingbourne. I'll provide the details I have although whether they are current I'm uncertain. Once again, WT to the rescue to correct any misinformation, please.
I believe this to be Monarch with one of the vehicles used to bring staff in from the Sittingbourne end of the railway. Monarch was the only 0-4-4-0T on the railway and was built by W G Bagnall in 1953 works number 3024. It was sold to the Welshpool and Llanfair railway in 1966. Photographed at Sittingbourne in 1964.
This is Chevalier, a Manning Wardle 0-6-2T locomotive works number 1877 of 1915 photographed in 1964. Precise location is not known but clearly on the Bowaters system. This was acquired from the Chattenden and Upnor Railway in 1950 and sold on to the Great Whipsnade Railway, being later resold to Bill Parker.
Brian
To the Talyllyn and these three are recorded as Dolgoch 1965.
Now a series on the 2ft 6in and standard gauge Bowaters Paper Mill Railway at Sittingbourne. I'll provide the details I have although whether they are current I'm uncertain. Once again, WT to the rescue to correct any misinformation, please.
I believe this to be Monarch with one of the vehicles used to bring staff in from the Sittingbourne end of the railway. Monarch was the only 0-4-4-0T on the railway and was built by W G Bagnall in 1953 works number 3024. It was sold to the Welshpool and Llanfair railway in 1966. Photographed at Sittingbourne in 1964.
This is Chevalier, a Manning Wardle 0-6-2T locomotive works number 1877 of 1915 photographed in 1964. Precise location is not known but clearly on the Bowaters system. This was acquired from the Chattenden and Upnor Railway in 1950 and sold on to the Great Whipsnade Railway, being later resold to Bill Parker.
Brian
PhilH
Western Thunderer
Yippee ! - Narrow Gauge and Industrial 
, Sorry got a little too excited there !
Nice photos of DOLGOCH on the Talyllyn. The fourth photo is indeed MONARCH, and he was lucky to get that working as apparently it spent most of its time in the workshops, where it was when I visited the system in 1960. The photo of CHEVALLIER was taken at Ridham Dock, evident by the stacks of waste paper bales, and the jib of one of the dockside cranes is just visible over the top. CHEVALLIER went to McAlpine's Hayes Depot about July 1970, presumably for repair or maintenance, then on to Whipsnade later that year.
, Sorry got a little too excited there !Nice photos of DOLGOCH on the Talyllyn. The fourth photo is indeed MONARCH, and he was lucky to get that working as apparently it spent most of its time in the workshops, where it was when I visited the system in 1960. The photo of CHEVALLIER was taken at Ridham Dock, evident by the stacks of waste paper bales, and the jib of one of the dockside cranes is just visible over the top. CHEVALLIER went to McAlpine's Hayes Depot about July 1970, presumably for repair or maintenance, then on to Whipsnade later that year.
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oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Phil - I'm really pleased at your reaction and particularly your advice about the geography of the site.. I personally find the Bowaters pictures really absorbing. I visited in 1969, very shortly before the system closed, as a delegate at the Association of Railway Preservation Societies meeting. Not knowing what to expect I didn't take a camera! We went over the whole of the system and travelled in those coaches. I was the delegate for the then new Main Line Preservation Group which has eventually become the GCR. I said my few words and was roundly denigrated by the great and the good for starting a new preservation scheme when there were already enough, for diluting the number of volunteers available to other schemes and really for every other possible "reason". It was interesting that, many years later, some of the most well known and outspokenly critical members of that congregation were invited on to the board of the GCR!
However, enough of that! There are a few other industrial photos in Tim's collection which we'll come to in due course although he was principally a main line photographer. As far as the Bowaters pictures are concerned there are a few coming up where my information is sketchy in the extreme and your help in expanding some commentary to them will be highly valued.
I'll now grab the remaining time before our guests arrive to put up a few more.
Sadly fogged in the camera but this is Chevallier again at Ridham Dock on the Bowaters Railway System in 1964.
I've tried to identify this fireless 0-4-0 but without success. In fact I don't even know what gauge it is but suspect 4ft 8 1/2. It appears to be alongside the river which would suggest it's again at Ridham Dock, Bowaters system, 1964. Help, please Phil!
Edit: This is not at Bowaters, but was taken at Reed Paper & Board (UK) Ltd., Empire Paper Mills, Greenhithe, which had an exchange siding with the Southern Railway just east of Greenhithe Station and a rail served river wharf on the Thames.
Orenstein & Koppel fireless loco Works No.2499 of 1907 supplied new for the mill's opening in 1908, presumably taken on the river wharf. It was scrapped c12/1971.
The steam locos were replaced by three secondhand Ruston & Hornsby 0-4-0DEs in 1970/71.
Here's an 0-4-0ST which I believe to be standard gauge alongside a fireless 0-4-0 on the narrow gauge which seems to carry an identity of S/11. I don't know the precise location. I believe the saddle tank to be Jubilee, Bagnall No 2542 of 1936 which is now at the East Anglian Railway Museum. Advised by Tim to be at Bowaters in 1964.
Edit. I have just found a photo of Jubilee and the cab is entirely wrong which doesn't help in the identification of this one!
Not at Bowaters, but at Reed Paper & Board (UK) Ltd., Empire Paper Mills, Greenhithe, which had an exchange siding with the Southern Railway just east of Greenhithe Station and a rail served river wharf on the Thames.
This shows S/11 Andrew Barclay fireless loco Works No.1561 of 1917, obtained secondhand from Brunner Mond & Co. Ltd., Winnington Works , Cheshire in 1920, and scrapped c12/1971. The other loco is NELSON an 0-4-0ST built by Peckett, Works No.1880 of 1935, ex the same company's Aylesford Paper Mills, New Hythe, in February 1959. The name was painted on the saddle tank rather than a cast nameplate so its not evident in the photo. This loco was scrapped in March 1970.
The steam locos were replaced by three secondhand Ruston & Hornsby 0-4-0DEs in 1970/71.
Brian
However, enough of that! There are a few other industrial photos in Tim's collection which we'll come to in due course although he was principally a main line photographer. As far as the Bowaters pictures are concerned there are a few coming up where my information is sketchy in the extreme and your help in expanding some commentary to them will be highly valued.
I'll now grab the remaining time before our guests arrive to put up a few more.
Sadly fogged in the camera but this is Chevallier again at Ridham Dock on the Bowaters Railway System in 1964.
I've tried to identify this fireless 0-4-0 but without success. In fact I don't even know what gauge it is but suspect 4ft 8 1/2. It appears to be alongside the river which would suggest it's again at Ridham Dock, Bowaters system, 1964. Help, please Phil!
Edit: This is not at Bowaters, but was taken at Reed Paper & Board (UK) Ltd., Empire Paper Mills, Greenhithe, which had an exchange siding with the Southern Railway just east of Greenhithe Station and a rail served river wharf on the Thames.
Orenstein & Koppel fireless loco Works No.2499 of 1907 supplied new for the mill's opening in 1908, presumably taken on the river wharf. It was scrapped c12/1971.
The steam locos were replaced by three secondhand Ruston & Hornsby 0-4-0DEs in 1970/71.
Here's an 0-4-0ST which I believe to be standard gauge alongside a fireless 0-4-0 on the narrow gauge which seems to carry an identity of S/11. I don't know the precise location. I believe the saddle tank to be Jubilee, Bagnall No 2542 of 1936 which is now at the East Anglian Railway Museum. Advised by Tim to be at Bowaters in 1964.
Edit. I have just found a photo of Jubilee and the cab is entirely wrong which doesn't help in the identification of this one!
Not at Bowaters, but at Reed Paper & Board (UK) Ltd., Empire Paper Mills, Greenhithe, which had an exchange siding with the Southern Railway just east of Greenhithe Station and a rail served river wharf on the Thames.
This shows S/11 Andrew Barclay fireless loco Works No.1561 of 1917, obtained secondhand from Brunner Mond & Co. Ltd., Winnington Works , Cheshire in 1920, and scrapped c12/1971. The other loco is NELSON an 0-4-0ST built by Peckett, Works No.1880 of 1935, ex the same company's Aylesford Paper Mills, New Hythe, in February 1959. The name was painted on the saddle tank rather than a cast nameplate so its not evident in the photo. This loco was scrapped in March 1970.
The steam locos were replaced by three secondhand Ruston & Hornsby 0-4-0DEs in 1970/71.
Brian
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LarryG
Western Thunderer
Great to see the photos on the narrow gauge, particularly on the Llanfair C... Cl.4 80099 at Portmadoc is interesting with its Hawksworth corridor brake and a non-corridor third. It was a short train for this line and was maybe standing in for a failed DMU or on a school run.
PhilH
Western Thunderer
Brian,
The second two photos are not at Bowaters, but were taken at Reed Paper & Board (UK) Ltd., Empire Paper Mills, Greenhithe, which had an exchange siding with the Southern Railway just east of Greenhithe Station and a rail served river wharf on the Thames.
The first of the two shows the Orenstein & Koppel fireless loco Works No.2499 of 1907 supplied new for the mill's opening in 1908, presumably taken on the river wharf. It was scrapped c12/1971.
The second shows S/11 Andrew Barclay fireless loco Works No.1561 of 1917, obtained secondhand from Brunner Mond & Co. Ltd., Winnington Works , Cheshire in 1920, and scrapped like the O&K loco c12/1971. The other loco is NELSON a 0-4-0ST built by Peckett, Works No.1880 of 1935, ex the same company's Aylesford Paper Mills, New Hythe, in February 1959. The name was painted on the saddle tank rather than a cast nameplate so its not evident in the photo. This loco was scrapped in March 1970.
The steam locos were replaced by three secondhand Ruston & Hornsby 0-4-0DEs in 1970/71.
(Info from Industrial Railway Society records)
Bowaters were very accommodating when I visited in 1960. I was staying with a friend in London and had previously written to arrange the visit. On the day we were joined by two other enthusiasts and I think our guide was the official in charge of the railway system. We started at Sittingbourne Mill and then the guide commandeered the Sittingbourne shunter, one of the Kerr Stuart 0-4-2STs, to taxi us to Kemsley Mill. With the loco crew there were 7 of us in the loco cab ! At Kemsley in addition to the loco shed and workshops we were taken through the mill to see the paper making process, then given lunch in the staff canteen. We then walked to Ridham Dock where there were several locos working, and it was arranged for the working standard gauge loco, the Bagnall 0-4-0ST JUBILLEE, to pull the ex SE&CR 'P' Class 0-6-0T out of the loco shed for us to photograph. We returned to Sittingbourne in the workman's coach behind the Bagnall 0-6-2T ALPHA. Happy Days !
The second two photos are not at Bowaters, but were taken at Reed Paper & Board (UK) Ltd., Empire Paper Mills, Greenhithe, which had an exchange siding with the Southern Railway just east of Greenhithe Station and a rail served river wharf on the Thames.
The first of the two shows the Orenstein & Koppel fireless loco Works No.2499 of 1907 supplied new for the mill's opening in 1908, presumably taken on the river wharf. It was scrapped c12/1971.
The second shows S/11 Andrew Barclay fireless loco Works No.1561 of 1917, obtained secondhand from Brunner Mond & Co. Ltd., Winnington Works , Cheshire in 1920, and scrapped like the O&K loco c12/1971. The other loco is NELSON a 0-4-0ST built by Peckett, Works No.1880 of 1935, ex the same company's Aylesford Paper Mills, New Hythe, in February 1959. The name was painted on the saddle tank rather than a cast nameplate so its not evident in the photo. This loco was scrapped in March 1970.
The steam locos were replaced by three secondhand Ruston & Hornsby 0-4-0DEs in 1970/71.
(Info from Industrial Railway Society records)
Bowaters were very accommodating when I visited in 1960. I was staying with a friend in London and had previously written to arrange the visit. On the day we were joined by two other enthusiasts and I think our guide was the official in charge of the railway system. We started at Sittingbourne Mill and then the guide commandeered the Sittingbourne shunter, one of the Kerr Stuart 0-4-2STs, to taxi us to Kemsley Mill. With the loco crew there were 7 of us in the loco cab ! At Kemsley in addition to the loco shed and workshops we were taken through the mill to see the paper making process, then given lunch in the staff canteen. We then walked to Ridham Dock where there were several locos working, and it was arranged for the working standard gauge loco, the Bagnall 0-4-0ST JUBILLEE, to pull the ex SE&CR 'P' Class 0-6-0T out of the loco shed for us to photograph. We returned to Sittingbourne in the workman's coach behind the Bagnall 0-6-2T ALPHA. Happy Days !
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simond
Western Thunderer
There was a standard gauge fireless loco at Kemsley Down station, when I went to the beer festival at the end of June. I just looked for photos on my phone and there are none 
. I’m sure I took some, it’s a mystery. I can thoroughly recommend the Mad Cat stout. These points may be connected.
anyway, I think it’s here
9Q64+HMH Sittingbourne
. I’m sure I took some, it’s a mystery. I can thoroughly recommend the Mad Cat stout. These points may be connected.anyway, I think it’s here
9Q64+HMH Sittingbourne
76043
Western Thunderer
I've noticed a few trains like this in the Severn and Wye books. The Hawksworth brake was clearly relatively new and was already ousted from higher priority work. The non corridor third looks like a BR mk 1 to me.
Tony
PhilH
Western Thunderer
There was a standard gauge fireless loco at Kemsley Down station, when I went to the beer festival at the end of June. I just looked for photos on my phone and there are none
anyway, I think it’s here
9Q64+HMH Sittingbourne
This is the one I assume:
Andrew Barclay Works No 1876 Northfleet Paper Mill 0-4-0F
This locomotive was built by Andrew Barclay in 1925 and ordered by Charles Walmsley & Co Ltd, Atlas Works at Bury. It was delivered new to Northfleet Paper Mill in Kent. It was a fireless locom…
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