7mm Richards P48 US Thread
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richard carr
Western Thunderer
Thanks for that Jordan, that will really help with my weathering.
Richard
Richard
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Yes, there's plenty around...
And one of my early attempts on a HO insulated car
And one of my early attempts on a HO insulated car
mickoo
Western Thunderer
That's barely run in
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
The American term you require is "Bad Ordered".
richard carr
Western Thunderer
I have been in Chicago this week, it's been seriously chilly minus 23 on Tuesday morning walking to the office.
So I have had a bit of time to do a little modelling, this is an Inter Mountain kit for a URSA 55 ton hopper, a bit early for me really but I read somewhere that some were still in P Way service int he 90s.
It's basically an airfix kit, but the instructions leave a lot to be desired, but the parts are nicely moulded and there is plenty of detail, and I've nothing else to do except go outside and freeze, more of that later.
The main one piece body with the 3 spreaders added.
The instructions are leave a great deal out, the is no mention of where the brake cylinder goes, has anyone got any ideas ?
So I have had a bit of time to do a little modelling, this is an Inter Mountain kit for a URSA 55 ton hopper, a bit early for me really but I read somewhere that some were still in P Way service int he 90s.
It's basically an airfix kit, but the instructions leave a lot to be desired, but the parts are nicely moulded and there is plenty of detail, and I've nothing else to do except go outside and freeze, more of that later.
The main one piece body with the 3 spreaders added.
The instructions are leave a great deal out, the is no mention of where the brake cylinder goes, has anyone got any ideas ?
garethashenden
Western Thunderer
It depends on the prototype to some extent. They were all built with K brakes, so when they got converted to AB brakes sometimes things got rearranged. There are lots of builders style photos here, one on page 15 shows a car with AB brakes. It may help. https://nycshs.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/usranycshoppers.pdf
Big Train James
Western Thunderer
This is an Intermountain RTR 55 ton panel side hopper, but I feel confident that the brake rigging is the same for both cars.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Thanks Gents
Thats really helpful. It turns out that if you read the bit on the K brake system that it says I should ignore as I'm using the AB system, it tells you about the brake cylinder and where it goes ! Typical.
Richard
Thats really helpful. It turns out that if you read the bit on the K brake system that it says I should ignore as I'm using the AB system, it tells you about the brake cylinder and where it goes ! Typical.
Richard
timbowales
Western Thunderer
Cameras are cruel to models……..Gents - please post an advance warning for those of a nervous or sensitive nature, before showing 3-rail wheels & lobster claws!!!
Tim T
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
Yeah but 3-rail doesn't need the help.....
Overseer
Western Thunderer
I for one was quite shocked when I realised it was not N gauge, not had much exposure to such things in my sheltered P48 and S7 world. But it is super detailed - look it has brake hoses. At least the body is not dumbed down like some more recent US production.Gents - please post an advance warning for those of a nervous or sensitive nature, before showing 3-rail wheels & lobster claws!!!
Big Train James
Western Thunderer
So people can sleep at night.....
The Intermountain cars are all pretty nice actually. But for whatever reason, they couldn't make a market in them, and sold the tooling to Atlas. The 55 ton hoppers, 1937 AAR boxcars, and several of the early era tank cars (can't remember the specifics) all started as Intermountain kits. Also, Intermountain was involved with Red Caboose, and the RC cars are nice as well. I think they may have gone to Atlas as well? Not sure.
It's interesting that this car has different trucks than the last. This car is actually in a 3-rail box, so somebody must have converted the car at some point.
Jim
The Intermountain cars are all pretty nice actually. But for whatever reason, they couldn't make a market in them, and sold the tooling to Atlas. The 55 ton hoppers, 1937 AAR boxcars, and several of the early era tank cars (can't remember the specifics) all started as Intermountain kits. Also, Intermountain was involved with Red Caboose, and the RC cars are nice as well. I think they may have gone to Atlas as well? Not sure.
It's interesting that this car has different trucks than the last. This car is actually in a 3-rail box, so somebody must have converted the car at some point.
Jim
richard carr
Western Thunderer
When I stopped off at Des Plaines Hobbies on Saturday they had a fair bit of new 2 rail stock. There was an Atlas premier SD70 ACe but in Canadian Pacific Army livery ie green, why would anybody want that. There were quite few freight cars from well cars to the auto racks, incuding these 2 bay hoppers.
They don't look too bad, the roof walkways are bit on the heavy side but otherwise they aren't too bad.
They don't look too bad, the roof walkways are bit on the heavy side but otherwise they aren't too bad.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
The other recent thing are frame extensions for GP60s. So here are the test ones on the Rio G GP60, these aren't glued as they required a bit of fettling to get them to fit, so I will be refining the CAD drawing based on these for the "production" run I do need quite a few.
I think thee make a real difference to the look of the loco. There is one little issue at the moment, the dampers on the bogie side frames are catching the frame, so I'm just about to go and test this and see if it runs ok, I may need to reduce the frame height by about 0.5 mm.
Richard
I think thee make a real difference to the look of the loco. There is one little issue at the moment, the dampers on the bogie side frames are catching the frame, so I'm just about to go and test this and see if it runs ok, I may need to reduce the frame height by about 0.5 mm.
Richard
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
The frame extensions make all the difference.
As I only have a handful of locos I made mine up from styrene - as seen on my Dash 8-40B.
Here with the rear done.
And then the front.
This close up shows how the gap has virtually been closed (and some of the other bits I have made and added).
I really need to get back into finishing the model but haven't had the enthusiasm over the last few years. I'll get around to it one day.
As I only have a handful of locos I made mine up from styrene - as seen on my Dash 8-40B.
Here with the rear done.
And then the front.
This close up shows how the gap has virtually been closed (and some of the other bits I have made and added).
I really need to get back into finishing the model but haven't had the enthusiasm over the last few years. I'll get around to it one day.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
I'm glad you did it Dave, as that's what inspired me to give a try, and it's well worth it.
Richard
Richard
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
I did a similar thing with my Atlas BNSF Dash-8, I used two strips of Plasruct [-section channel to fill in the gap from over the fuel tanks back over the rear truck.
Once painted it's difficult to see, but does block out unwanted 'daylight'.
Meanwhile, a question if I may - what route does the air pipe to the brake cylinder take over the truck frame? As seen here, the Atlas pipe just ends rather vaguely floating in mid-air, & doesn't look very good at all....
Once painted it's difficult to see, but does block out unwanted 'daylight'.
Meanwhile, a question if I may - what route does the air pipe to the brake cylinder take over the truck frame? As seen here, the Atlas pipe just ends rather vaguely floating in mid-air, & doesn't look very good at all....