7mm Richards P48 US Thread

[mickoo]

Well that's just silly money more so if you're visiting the US often and can bring it back as luggage, even with taxes and shipping it's still good value.

I'd be tempted to patch it but not with those numbers, I think they were renumbered when UP took them over but that's no problem as they often just painted a yellow patch over the old number and stuck the new one on.



I'm not surprised the 2nd order didn't go ahead, the market is depressed and there's a lot of RTR stuff out there in almost direct competition, plus I never saw anywhere written that they'd address the trucks; mind, toy springs in trucks doesn't seem to worry the rank and file in the US as they're prevalent in almost all brass import models in one guise or another.

It's certainly a buyers market out there right now, lots of bargains to be had, bad cricket if you're selling though.

 

[richard carr]

I may patch it Mick, but if you do that dates it after September 1996, where as if you don't it could be earlier but also later, some of them took a while to get patched.

 

[richard carr]

Another small thing I have been working on is another coupling box, this time for an ACF 60 foot auto parts boxcar, this one is in Southern livery.
According to my book on ACF boxcars, this one did run on 70ton trucks, so it is now fully converted to P48

 

[mickoo]

I may patch it Mick, but if you do that dates it after September 1996, where as if you don't it could be earlier but also later, some of them took a while to get patched.

All were renumbered by 2000-1 but three were done in 97 and one in 99.

I'd wager the renumbering resulted in the patches so that gives you as base line for patched engines of 2000-1. Some were repainted when renumbered, SP 8100 was renumbered and repainted in 97 and became UP 9564, some were not and still haven't been; I think there are two or three still kicking around in patched SP paint.

Depends when your modeling time line is really.

 

[Jay Criswell]

This turned up on US Ebay a few weeks back, it is a Sunset models GE C44-9W in SP livery of course. It is currently 3 rail, but replacement wheel sets are available from Right O Way. I'm not sure what electronics are inside it, it has a big speaker in the radiator housing, and makes appropriate noise if you put it on a track with a DCC signal. If I'm lucky it may have a QSi decoder of some kind in it, if I'm unlucky it will be TMCC, which has to go straight in the bin.

View attachment 191280

I have removed the couplers and it already looks better, it has fixed pilots, so it just needs the wheelsets changing.



View attachment 191281

Richard,

Yes, I should be able to provide the replacement P48 geared axles with proper wheels. The critical item is getting the correct diameter of the gears on the axles. Current production is 10.1mm but earlier runs of the Sunset models used a gear that was/is 10.5mm It has one more tooth. Might be a good idea to get the wheel diameter too (40" or 42").

 

[richard carr]

Thanks Jay

I'll get a wheel set out and see what it is.

Richard

 

[richard carr]

I have managed to get a bit more done over the weekend.

I have added in the next baseboard to take the track round the corner.








`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````


I have also been detailing some more switches, this time with the aid of a small sleeper spacing gauge that OZ 7mm laser cut for me.



very simple but it really does help lay the ties in the correct place.

 

[richard carr]

S7 JB came round to help last night, so we got on with all the 2 man jobs, slicing up 8 x4 foot sheets of sundela board to start with and then adding the round the back of the S7 layout board.

So this board is just 200mm wide and slips into the gap between the wall and the S7 layout, but there is room for double track.




Here it is from the other end.



The other thing I have noticed recently is the almost complete lack of availability of Birch plywood, I can only assume that our supplies must have come from Russia, as hardly anyone has any stock and those that do are charging £180 for an 8x4 sheet !
Fortunately I still have quite bit in stock, but at some point I will have to buy some more.

 

[richard carr]

After spending quite a bit of time building baseboards and track I decided to have a look at the GE 44-9W. I took one of the gearboxes apart and the result was this.





Unfortunately, you can't drop in replacement wheel sets as you have to remove the wheels to get the gearbox apart. So this looks like a machine the axles job so that I can fit some P48 wheels. It's no too difficult, but it does require a good few hours of precise machining.

 

[JasonD]

If you haven't got time for the machining, Peartree Engineering (Model Railway Parts - HOME) do 'small batches' of wheelsets - any spec. He'll be at Stafford.

Reminders to all: Please don't throw any Ow5 wheels away. I have a good supply of P48 33" and 36" wheelsets (swapsies?!), some trucks and bolsters, steam loco drivers (63" set of 6, etc), track-laying gauges (couple of turnout sets of rail parts, P48 check gauges, etc. I want them all gone so I can afford an air fare to Houston where my elder son and his family are going v soon!

Next meet with tables Winchester Oct 21 , next visit with ruck-sack for small parts you want (let me know): GOG Stafford
Jason

 

[Jay Criswell]

If you haven't got time for the machining, Peartree Engineering (Model Railway Parts - HOME) do 'small batches' of wheelsets - any spec. He'll be at Stafford.

Reminders to all: Please don't throw any Ow5 wheels away. I have a good supply of P48 33" and 36" wheelsets (swapsies?!), some trucks and bolsters, steam loco drivers (63" set of 6, etc), track-laying gauges (couple of turnout sets of rail parts, P48 check gauges, etc. I want them all gone so I can afford an air fare to Houston where my elder son and his family are going v soon!

Next meet with tables Winchester Oct 21 , next visit with ruck-sack for small parts you want (let me know): GOG Stafford
Jason

Jason, please tell me more about the 63" drivers.

Jay

 

[Jordan]

next visit with ruck-sack for small parts you want (let me know): GOG Stafford

*cough* Intermountain wheelsets *cough*

 

[JasonD]

*cough* Intermountain wheelsets *cough*

So there is a potential cure for this terrible coughing, thanks Jordan. I won't wait till Stafford - got to do something with these Jiffy Bags
Jason

 

[mickoo]

Next meet with tables Winchester Oct 21 , next visit with ruck-sack for small parts you want (let me know): GOG Stafford
Jason

Still waiting for those MTH 2 Rail six axle truck replacement wheels please; they're the ones with the gear in the middle of
the axle, not to one side like the 4 axle trucks.

 

[Jordan]

next visit with ruck-sack for small parts you want (let me know): GOG Stafford

*cough* Intermountain wheelsets *cough*

Still waiting for those MTH 2 Rail six axle truck replacement wheels please; they're the ones with the gear in the middle of
the axle, not to one side like the 4 axle trucks.

We need to arrange a specific place & time to meet at Guildex Stafford.
In front of 'Arry Dodd's layout seems the obvious place, now what time?

 

[Stephen]

We need to arrange a specific place & time to meet at Guildex Stafford.
In front of 'Arry Dodd's layout seems the obvious place, now what time?

Can I put a vote in for the Saturday - exact time TBC?

Cheers,

Stephen

 

[Jordan]

Can I put a vote in for the Saturday - exact time TBC?

Cheers,

Stephen

Yes, forgot to mention Saturday only for me, too.
I have another 'meet' at 12.30, so 11am would be good for me.

Apologies for Off Topic thread drift!!

 

[Dog Star]

I have another 'meet' at 12.30...

You are going to be drinking a lot of tea and eating a lot of tiffin!

 

[richard carr]

No problem with the thread diversion, hopefully I will b able to join you, but I might be in the US again that weekend with work.

 

[richard carr]

The good news is that the work trip has been pushed back a week, so I will see you there on the Saturday