7mm Pencarrow - Cornish BR(S)

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Stubby47 said:
This is only an opinion and please feel free to completely ignore it.

If your building is to have the roof light, meaning it's condition is that well before the 60's refurb, why are the roof slates so badly damaged ?

Unless the seagulls have hobnailed boots on, I can't see why the bottom edges of almost every slate has been chipped, is cracked or has lost corners.
Unless, that is, the slates were added in such a poor condition, which is possible if they were re-used and/or cheaper than new ones. I also would question the apparent random width of adjacent slates, row by row that might/would change, but along the same row ?

Like I said, just my opinion and there are probably excellent reasons for the way you've added the slates.
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Hi Stu

All good questions.

In comparison with the buildings around it, photos of the grain store show it having uneven, random sized tiles. Earlier in the thread one of the resident roofing experts opinions that when built it was roofed with the cheapest slates. I doubt these were nice and square when new.

I don't know when it was built but it was certainly around pre 1834, and I suspect was a fair bit older than that. It definitely shows signs of organic growth over time.

I previously tiled the two rear sections of the building using slates with no chips. These did not give the appearance I was after. The combination of regular slates laid unevenly just made it look like I'd done a bad job.

Those two sections were removed and I've started again using the chipped slates. This IMO gives an overall effect that matches that observed in photos and will be a stark contrast to the posh slates on the station roof.

Having slapped a bit of paint on part of the roof I'm happy with the effect.
 
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Looks good Chris,
I'm a bit late to the party on this. I wonder if it just had a central glazing bar and what looked like horizontal bars were in fact, each side made up from two pieces of glass. Top overlaying bottom, this would give what appeared to be a line across the width.
 
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Phil O said:
Wow, a bit of colour brings it to life. As always a nice bit of work.
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Cheers Phil, it was only a quick brush over with grey and some blobs of brown, yellow and green. Quite pleased with the result considering it was just to give an idea of how it will look.
 
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    Class 03 for Pencarrow?

    I understand that 03s were used on the St Blazey to Wenford Bridge line in the interim between the 1366 Pannier tanks and the 08s. But which ones?

    Three 03s were at one point or another allocated to St Blazey: D2127, D2129, D2183.

    D2127 was withdrawn in 1968
    D2129 was withdrawn in 1981
    D2183 was withdrawn in 1968

    D2127: 24/08/1964, arrived St Blazey; 14/05/1967 reallocated to Laira; so was at St Blazey the longest.

    D2129: 07/10/1961, arrived St Blazey; 11/04/1965, reallocated to Landore (Swansea).

    D2183: 21/04/1962, arrived St Blazey; 19/05/1962, reallocated to Laira; 08/11/1964, reallocated back to St Blazey; 14/05/1967, reallocated to Taunton.

    D2127 looks favourite for the Wenford line and was certainly used on brakevan specials.

    Wenford Bridge Stannon China Clay Works. D2127 & special. 10.9.66

    Now trying to work out when it got wasp stripes... Which I've narrowed down between September 66 and "early" 67.
     
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    NHY 581 said:
    Courtesy of Bradford Barton.

    September 1965. View attachment 126263
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    I think Mr Barton has got the caption a bit wrong - either the date is too early or it's not D2127.

    Here's D2127 over a year later with no wasp stripes on a railtour that was well photographed (so the number and date are correct). The other option would be it received a retro paint job.

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    Wenford Bridge Stannon China Clay Works. D2127 & special. 10.9.66

    84A shed plate with red background, red buffer beam and not at all clean paint job.

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    On a completely unrelated note, Stu tipped me off about the existence of this book.

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    The book covers a good selection SR and GWR locations in ranging geographically from Penzance to Bristol and the Isle of Wight.

    It includes shots in my NCR interest area and some nice ones of Bodmin North as an additional bonus.
     
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    Chris

    From my research I think that you are right about the likely candidates for the Wenfordbridge line in the 1960's. I have not found any photos of D2129 on the branch but both D2127 and D2183 feature.

    There are several shots of D2183 at Wadebridge in one of the books and also at St Blazey in John Vaughan's Newquay Branchlike and its Branches. The latter shows it when reasonably new and from what I understand it had wasp stripes from new, I suspect that this is actually the loco in the Bradford Barton book.

    All the photos I have located of D2127 suggest plain blue certainly until 1966/67 and original style numbering - at lease that's what my version is getting for the 1964/1965 stock at my version of Bodmin General!

    Jeremy
     
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    Jeremy Good said:
    Chris

    From my research I think that you are right about the likely candidates for the Wenfordbridge line in the 1960's. I have not found any photos of D2129 on the branch but both D2127 and D2183 feature.

    There are several shots of D2183 at Wadebridge in one of the books and also at St Blazey in John Vaughan's Newquay Branchlike and its Branches. The latter shows it when reasonably new and from what I understand it had wasp stripes from new, I suspect that this is actually the loco in the Bradford Barton book.

    All the photos I have located of D2127 suggest plain blue certainly until 1966/67 and original style numbering - at lease that's what my version is getting for the 1964/1965 stock at my version of Bodmin General!

    Jeremy
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    Hi Jeremy

    Thanks for the confirmation of the details I've collected (I assume you mean plain green rather than plain blue in the last paragraph).

    Interesting that 2183 got wasp stripes from new. That certainly must mean that it's 2183 in the Barton book.

    Do you have a thread for your Bodmin General layout?
     
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    Jeremy Good

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    Chris

    Yes, I did mean green not blue- it was too hot yesterday!

    There is a thread for my P4, 1950's/60's version of Bodmin General on the Scalefour Society forum but I haven't updated it for a while. I will post on here as well soon. Lockdown has been good for the layout as all the track is now laid and two of the three boards wired. Once I've got the final one wired up I'll put it back together and get some updated photos posted. There is a Phase 2 plan which involves Boscarne Junction as well but that'll be a while off yet...

    Jeremy
     
    gwrrob

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    Pencarrow said:
    On a completely unrelated note, Stu tipped me off about the existence of this book.

    View attachment 126280

    The book covers a good selection SR and GWR locations in ranging geographically from Penzance to Bristol and the Isle of Wight.

    It includes shots in my NCR interest area and some nice ones of Bodmin North as an additional bonus.
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    Anything in it of interest to me chum ?
     
    AJC

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    gwrrob said:
    I was thinking more of the GWR locations in it.
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    I've got a copy, too - lots of Cornish locations including the mainline around Truro and the branches as well as into Devon, Somerset and Dorset. It's probably more Southern than Western, but the quality of photography is really very good and although a lot of the subject matter is relatively common the views are not the usual ones. Well worth the money in my view.

    Adam
     
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