richard carr
Western Thunderer
Col
This one is by Hukoer,
Richard
This one is by Hukoer,
Richard
New Super-Layout - Masborough in Emmadale
7mmMick
Western Thunderer
That looks a decent bit of kit Richard and a seamless repair all ready for the point work. Thanks for posting and looking forward to further progress reports
Cheers
Mick
richard carr
Western Thunderer
The next bit is building the new point work and curve. I would have preferred to use a B8 and 3 metre curve but the templates showed that this was never going to fit, I have had to use a B7 and 2.5 metre radius curve (about 8 feet), it should still be fine for all the locos and with a check rail added will look the part. Here I am testing the templates and it seems to work
Now it's time to lay some new 1.6mm ply to get the levels right.
And here the sleepers for the point have been cut and laid on the template from Templot and heavily weighted down to make sure they glue down flat.
I use Uhu glue to stick them to the template. The template is stuck down with ready mixed wallpaper paste.
Now it's time to lay some new 1.6mm ply to get the levels right.
And here the sleepers for the point have been cut and laid on the template from Templot and heavily weighted down to make sure they glue down flat.
I use Uhu glue to stick them to the template. The template is stuck down with ready mixed wallpaper paste.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Now the sleepers are down it's time to build some track.
The first thing to make is the crossing vee, the S7 Group sell these crossing filing jigs which make it quick and easy to file one up. It then needs soldering together, as I'm using steel rail, so do not use acid based flux, use a cored flux, if you use acid based flux it will just rust the rail really badly.
Once you have made the vee it easy to build the point, start by laying the straightest stock rail, here it's easy as it has to match the existing rails regardless of where the template might be.
Here I'm adding the vee to the stock rail using 4 track gauges, you need loads of track gauges I would suggest at least 10 to make life easy.
The wing rails are the other tricky parts to form, I use the filing jig to help bend the rail to the right angle, I prefer to use a long piece of rail, fitted in the cross slot of the jig then bend it straight, I should have taken a photo of this, with a long piece of rail you can easily see if it is truly straight and therefore bent to the correct angle, then cut it to size.
I use some 1mm copper clad to support the, I have super glued it to the sleepers, then you can solder it to the rail, or super glue it to rail if you prefer, which I have done here.
Here I am fixing down the second point blade, these were made by friend who is a whizz with a milling machine.
Finally I also started to fix the check rail curve using some o check rail chairs made by David Rayner. The check rail chair is the white one, I used 4 this was enough to get the rail in the right place.
Richard
The first thing to make is the crossing vee, the S7 Group sell these crossing filing jigs which make it quick and easy to file one up. It then needs soldering together, as I'm using steel rail, so do not use acid based flux, use a cored flux, if you use acid based flux it will just rust the rail really badly.
Once you have made the vee it easy to build the point, start by laying the straightest stock rail, here it's easy as it has to match the existing rails regardless of where the template might be.
Here I'm adding the vee to the stock rail using 4 track gauges, you need loads of track gauges I would suggest at least 10 to make life easy.
The wing rails are the other tricky parts to form, I use the filing jig to help bend the rail to the right angle, I prefer to use a long piece of rail, fitted in the cross slot of the jig then bend it straight, I should have taken a photo of this, with a long piece of rail you can easily see if it is truly straight and therefore bent to the correct angle, then cut it to size.
I use some 1mm copper clad to support the, I have super glued it to the sleepers, then you can solder it to the rail, or super glue it to rail if you prefer, which I have done here.
Here I am fixing down the second point blade, these were made by friend who is a whizz with a milling machine.
Finally I also started to fix the check rail curve using some o check rail chairs made by David Rayner. The check rail chair is the white one, I used 4 this was enough to get the rail in the right place.
Richard
richard carr
Western Thunderer
I think that will be tomorrow when the track is all connected between both sections.
Richard
Richard
S-Club-7
Western Thunderer
I just draw them Richard, Shapeways do the actual manufacture. Available from the Off The Rails shop if anybody else is interested.
A bit larger than full-size!
richard carr
Western Thunderer
It's now all complete the first loco has crossed the bridge and if a 9f can get round I'm sure anything else will.
There was still a bit to do from the last post so here are a few photos of the work that was undertaken.
These are checkrail chairs from off the rails, I don't have enough to use one for each sleeper but this was enough, just remember to hack back the ordinary chairs so that the check rail fits.
Here it is going in
This is the tie bar for the point, these come from MM1 (JLTRT) they are 2 part etch that is joined by soldering in a thin sandwich of 0.6mm pcb.
Robust and effective but not hugely prototypical
Back to the check rail
More sleepers going down
The completed track
And the 40 goes round too.
Richard
There was still a bit to do from the last post so here are a few photos of the work that was undertaken.
These are checkrail chairs from off the rails, I don't have enough to use one for each sleeper but this was enough, just remember to hack back the ordinary chairs so that the check rail fits.
Here it is going in
This is the tie bar for the point, these come from MM1 (JLTRT) they are 2 part etch that is joined by soldering in a thin sandwich of 0.6mm pcb.
Robust and effective but not hugely prototypical
Back to the check rail
More sleepers going down
The completed track
And the 40 goes round too.
Richard
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
Hi Richard
Any chance of a video of the 9f hauling a long train
John
Any chance of a video of the 9f hauling a long train
John
Susie
Western Thunderer
Just the one Class 40 Richard?
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Susie
There is a green one hiding behind the gorilla glue and here are 4 more
There is a green one hiding behind the gorilla glue and here are 4 more
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Euston we have a problem !
I have now moved on to the boards at the other end of the depot, I needed to extend the sidings and had assumed that where the new board would fit in, it was a right angle and a simple rectangular board would fit.
NO it's not a right angle its about 84 degrees, so my nice new laser cut board isn't going to fit.
Fortunately the rail saw makes it easy to cut angles so I set it up to cut at 84 degrees and set about making this.
Even though I had measured it several times I was still about 1 degree out but that hasn't mattered
Here's the board in place.
The laser cut board came from Wensleydale Woodsmiths, it's made from 9mm ply, except for the cross members which are 6mm. It all fitted together very tightly but still wanted gluing and screwing. I do like the legs though they fit very nicely and the adjustable feet work really well.
They are not cheap though at £140 for the one board with 2 legs and dowels. Delivery was a further £30.
I'm enjoying making my own so I won't be ordering any more but if you hate making boards they are a good solution.
Richard
I have now moved on to the boards at the other end of the depot, I needed to extend the sidings and had assumed that where the new board would fit in, it was a right angle and a simple rectangular board would fit.
NO it's not a right angle its about 84 degrees, so my nice new laser cut board isn't going to fit.
Fortunately the rail saw makes it easy to cut angles so I set it up to cut at 84 degrees and set about making this.
Even though I had measured it several times I was still about 1 degree out but that hasn't mattered
Here's the board in place.
The laser cut board came from Wensleydale Woodsmiths, it's made from 9mm ply, except for the cross members which are 6mm. It all fitted together very tightly but still wanted gluing and screwing. I do like the legs though they fit very nicely and the adjustable feet work really well.
They are not cheap though at £140 for the one board with 2 legs and dowels. Delivery was a further £30.
I'm enjoying making my own so I won't be ordering any more but if you hate making boards they are a good solution.
Richard
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Progress has slowed down a bit over the past couple of weeks largely because I have been very with work, that is now going very well with everyone working at home.
Most of the progress has been fairly boring stuff, gluing the down the templot templates and then sticking doen 1,000 sleepers, what a chore !
But is all getting there slowly
It's not really as kinked as it looks !
There is one more crossover to build, this time a B6 as it is the link onto the cripple road.
I did get a batch of the check rail chairs from shape ways, so now is chance to use them.
They look really nice and work really well, so I will be using more in future.
The trickest thing I find with track building is bending the wing rails to the righ angle.
I use the filing jig to help and bend the wing rail from a long piece of rail, I also put a piece of straight rail in the jig so if the 2 are parallel then you must have bent it to the correct angle, like this.
This one is parallel, I also need a long wing rail for this crossover as it also forms the check rail for the other point.
Here is the wing rail being test fitted and ready to mark to cut it to the correct length.
And here it is fitted in place.
A perfect fit.
Most of the progress has been fairly boring stuff, gluing the down the templot templates and then sticking doen 1,000 sleepers, what a chore !
But is all getting there slowly
It's not really as kinked as it looks !
There is one more crossover to build, this time a B6 as it is the link onto the cripple road.
I did get a batch of the check rail chairs from shape ways, so now is chance to use them.
They look really nice and work really well, so I will be using more in future.
The trickest thing I find with track building is bending the wing rails to the righ angle.
I use the filing jig to help and bend the wing rail from a long piece of rail, I also put a piece of straight rail in the jig so if the 2 are parallel then you must have bent it to the correct angle, like this.
This one is parallel, I also need a long wing rail for this crossover as it also forms the check rail for the other point.
Here is the wing rail being test fitted and ready to mark to cut it to the correct length.
And here it is fitted in place.
A perfect fit.
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Very nice!
Saves me laying 1000 sleepers
JB.
Yes but you will need to stain them though, you haven't got out of that !
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Work onthe crossover is progressing.
Here are the check rail chairs you can get from Shapeways
The second crossing goes in next
And from there it all comes together very quickly
There is a bit of detailing to do and the tie bars to be added but thats it.
I'll save the sleeper staining for JB !
Richard
Here are the check rail chairs you can get from Shapeways
The second crossing goes in next
And from there it all comes together very quickly
There is a bit of detailing to do and the tie bars to be added but thats it.
I'll save the sleeper staining for JB !
Richard
Tim Humphreys ex Mudhen
Western Thunderer
Richard,
If I'm correct I hope you don't mind me mentioning that the check-rail chairs come from Off the Rails via Shapeways.
Off The Rails by drrayner - Shapeways Shops
Off the Rails is run by one of the Love Lane crew and Western Thunder member David Rayner, S-Club 7 of this parish. He has a wide variety of products, well worth checking out in my opinion.
all the best
Tim
If I'm correct I hope you don't mind me mentioning that the check-rail chairs come from Off the Rails via Shapeways.
Off The Rails by drrayner - Shapeways Shops
Off the Rails is run by one of the Love Lane crew and Western Thunder member David Rayner, S-Club 7 of this parish. He has a wide variety of products, well worth checking out in my opinion.
all the best
Tim