4mm & 7mm Llanfair ....

[tanatvalley]

According to RCTS Standards book:
On delivery 78000-78009 for WR all lined black, 12/52 to 3/53. Also 10 in. numerals compared to 8 in. From early 1957 WR applied Brunswick Green livery as they went through works for overhaul. So 78000 unlined green as well as 1/3/4/7, lined were 78005/6/8/9.

Alan

 

[Captain Kernow]

So 78000 unlined green as well as 1/3/4/7, lined were 78005/6/8/9.

Thanks, that's interesting.
So Hornby have got the livery of 78006 right, by the looks of it (lined green).

 

[NHY 581]

This is from that most excellent site, BR Database.

BRDatabase, locomotive allocations, withdrawals and scrapping details in the UK

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www.brdatabase.info

Rob

 

[PaulM]

Thanks, that's interesting.
So Hornby have got the livery of 78006 right, by the looks of it (lined green).

At the end of its life, in 1965, 78006 seems to have been either in black or *very* grimy and faded green (cf Neil Parkhouse's West Gloucester & Wye Valley Lines Vol 1). There's also a photo of 78004 in nicely clean, unlined green, in 1962, in the same volume; but by 1965 photos of it on the Nailsworth branch show it to be in the same grimy state as 78006. Were they reliveried in black in their last years, or just allowed to get ever filthier?

 

[Captain Kernow]

At the end of its life, in 1965, 78006 seems to have been either in black or *very* grimy and faded green (cf Neil Parkhouse's West Gloucester & Wye Valley Lines Vol 1). There's also a photo of 78004 in nicely clean, unlined green, in 1962, in the same volume; but by 1965 photos of it on the Nailsworth branch show it to be in the same grimy state as 78006. Were they reliveried in black in their last years, or just allowed to get ever filthier?

Probably the latter. Repainting green steam locos on the WR back into black was almost unheard of, as far as I know.

 

[LarryG]

I saw the green BR Std Cl. 3 2-6-2T's in 1965 after they had left the Cambrian for work in Manchester. It struck me at the time how quickly they had adopted the typical uncared for state of Manchester locos. It was only years later that I learned W.Region steam had gone down the pan by 1965 anyway.

 

[PaulM]

I saw the green BR Std Cl. 3 2-6-2T's in 1965 after they had left the Cambrian for work in Manchester. It struck me at the time how quickly they had adopted the typical uncared for state of Manchester locos. It was only years later that I learned W.Region steam had gone down the pan by 1965 anyway.

Very useful to know. May have seen one or two shuffling wagons in Dudbridge yard, on my home from primary school, but younger self didn’t register the details. And thanks for showing the rather lovely model. Looks like unlined green’ll be my choice.

 

[Genghis]

Were they reliveried in black in their last years, or just allowed to get ever filthier?

Horton Road locos developed a livery of their own: 'extreme lack of care'. Bill Wright's photos capture the look well....................

 

[LarryG]

Little & Large in 4mm and 7mm. Perspective gives the impression that the pulley wheels are the same size. It is sheer coincidence that both jibs lean at the same angle....

 

[LarryG]

Reference the discussion on the two 4mm scale 'Manor' class locos in post 1,100, I forgot to mention the Dapol model has a black running plate angle aka GWR days. In BR livery, it should of course be green............ Easily remedied using a ruling pen.



Halford acrylic Ford Lauren Green was sprayed into a lid and applied twice with a ruling pen. Then Halfords Matt Lacquer was brushed over it. On such a small area, it doesn't really matter if it is not a perfect match. In anycase, I wonder what will be left showing once this loco is weathered....

 

[40057]

Little & Large in 4mm and 7mm. Perspective gives the impression that the pulley wheels are the same size. It is sheer coincidence that both jibs lean at the same angle....

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This one is small, that one is far away.

 

[Mike Trice]

Halford acrylic Ford Lauren Green was sprayed into a lid and applied twice with a ruling pen.

Interesting. How does it flow? I assume it goes off quickly. Do you add anything to the paint? Clean up in Cellulose Thinners?

 

[LarryG]

Nearly a month has gone by with no progress uploads, so here goes. The overlapping points were put 'in-line' to make shunting simpler and the station complex was compressed in both length and width....



Coal and goods share the same siding, but empty coal wagons can be switched to the track beside the goods shed so as not to impede goods traffic. I also decided to stick with the original Intentio signal box on the platform...

 

[LarryG]

Interesting. How does it flow? I assume it goes off quickly. Do you add anything to the paint? Clean up in Cellulose Thinners?

Hi Mike, the green is from a Halfords spraycan so it is thin enough for putting through a ruling pen after being decanted. It took two 'coats' to cover the black with an hours wait in between.

 

[LarryG]

I introduce a ballast shoulder 'out in the country' using a sharp craft knife and finishing off with en electric sander....



Masking tape gives a neat edge to the ballast...


Ballasting completed. Ballast is a mix of around 60% fine light grey and 40% fine dark brown...


Ballast sprayed near the rails and the rails painted Track Rust....

 

[LarryG]

Two days work, so it's a bit naked. ~The photo was taken to show the signalman has a clear view past the goods shed. Our intrepid photographer must have brought his ladders....



I take lots of photos to view on screen before making up my mind. A shame this tiny box wasnt right-handed....

 

[Captain Kernow]

Either way, that's a really convincing arrangement of the buildings, Larry. The brick detail is particularly crisp.

 

[LarryG]

The platform was sprayed yesterday and weathered last night...



Mortar courses are diluted acrylic model paint mixed from matt black, red and Fairy Liquid to make a dark purple stain. The 'chairs' on the old Insufrog double slip were picked out with PPC 'Sleeper Grime' to create the illusion of bullhead track...

 

[Gismorail]

Work is progressing rather well Larry once again you have managed to get really good depth of field. It does make such an overall impression .

 

[LarryG]

Thanks Gismo. I'm currently laying a joining of the tracks at the outer limit of the station complex similar to the arrangement at Llanfyllin. Its sprayed and is waiting to be glued & ballasted...



Even if a passenger train is occupying the platform loop, a goods train can still enter Llanfair and run-round using the approach loop before shunting. Taking water at the tank keeps trains within the outer limits of the loop....