7mm The Derby Line - Rolling Stock

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
I can see the simplicity of resin boilers and tender bulk being attractive to some, but I think it's a bit of a wasted technology for the WD


I sort of agree, but from talking to Laurie at JLTRT I think there's a plan to make models as easy to build as possible. Quite a few modellers are put off by having to roll flat etch into boilers, or having to solder seams on already rolled components. In fact, I get a distinct impression there's a whole cadre of "modellers" that really prefers the ready-to-roll style of modelling - which is good news for those of us who like building, provided the RTR types are prepared to pay for the service!
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
It must have been out of ticket for over ten years now and, if the Severn Valley News was a reasonable guide, waved a fond farewell by the engineering staff. Pity really as the big blue engine was a favourite of mine and yes, it's at Highley.

Adam
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
From what I can remember it was subject to a collection of bottom end faults rather than anything out of the ordinary with the boiler in its last year or two in ticket but beyond it featuring regularly in the loco' shop notes and being described as '600 - Lame Duck Class', I wouldn't like to commit myself. Dad's the SVR member, having done a bit of volunteering in the 'have a whip round to buy a Mk 1 days' of the operation!

Adam
 

dibateg

Western Thunderer
I've been away on a jolly and working wiring up a DCC garden railway, so at last it's back to the workbench.

I write all over the instructions when I do a build, so there could be a few amendments!

So the past two days have been spent on the boilers, and starting from the top, I felt the top feed sat a little high, so I cut the spigot off, filed the flange down, then drilled it out and soldered in a new piece of brass rod to mount it on. If I was doing the join between the firebox and boiler again, I'd leave out the double former. I've had to resort to Milliput. The half etched boiler bands are a little chunky, so I used Slaters phosphor bronze strip, which is a fraction too wide, but gives a more 'flush' appearance. I added the top feed cover from 5thou brass, it's so thin it can be cut with scissors. As you can see, we have original and Doncaster fireboxes. I countersunk the holes for the turned washout plugs so that they also are more set into the cladding. Anyway,they are getting that industrial look of the WD's.
Next to finish off the detailing and attach the steam pipes.

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Osgood

Western Thunderer
Which is the Doncaster boiler?
And how would you know what your particular loco carried, photo?


Having recently developed an unhealthy interest in the WDs (WT has a lot to answer for….), I reckon the answer will be found in the highly detailed pages of -

The Book of the WD 2-8-0s and 2-10-0s by Richard Derry, pub. Irwell Press

;)
 

alcazar

Guest
Yes, but being a miser and not wanting to spend £23 at this juncture, I was rather hoping someone would tell me....?
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
The Doncaster firebox is the one on the nearest loco in the most recent photo. The handrail and the larger pipe below part company to expose the washout plugs. Why? I've no idea.
The top row of washout plugs are "lower" on the Doncaster boiler... anyone know why?
 

dibateg

Western Thunderer
I saw the Booklaw 'The WD Austerity 2-8-0 The BR Record' for sale for £15 on their stand, that will tell you everything you need to know Jeff! Doncaster firebox ( to be precise ) on the right with the cranked blower pipe and handrail. I usually have 'The Book of...' or some other reference material for all my builds, as always photo's are essential.

Thanks Osgood - I'm using that one as well...

My customer was very specific regarding the loco number and details, co-incidentally the engine is also a Colwick resident. Numbers are 90437 and 90492. Like any 'standard' class there are multiple detail differences, smokebox grab rail, 4 lube pipe on the fireman's side, or 2 each side, positions of the rear oil boxes on the running plate, inside or outside pipe to the top feed etc. etc. !


Cliff - thanks for posting the video - what magnificent weather! I watched it all the way through..

Regards
Tony
 

dibateg

Western Thunderer
I saw the Booklaw 'The WD Austerity 2-8-0 The BR Record' for sale for £15 on their stand, that will tell you everything you need to know Jeff! Doncaster firebox ( to be precise ) on the right with the cranked blower pipe and handrail. I usually have 'The Book of...' or some other reference material for all my builds, as always photo's are essential.

Thanks Osgood - I'm using that one as well...

My customer was very specific regarding the loco number and details, co-incidentally the engine is also a Colwick resident. Numbers are 90437 and 90492. Like any 'standard' class there are multiple detail differences, smokebox grab rail, 4 lube pipe on the fireman's side, or 2 each side, positions of the rear oil boxes on the running plate, inside or outside pipe to the top feed etc. etc. !


Cliff - thanks for posting the video - what magnificent weather! I watched it all the way through..

Regards
Tony
 

alcazar

Guest
Thanks for the explanations. I'll keep looking for that book.
Mine will be "Vulcan" herself, a long-time resident of Doncaster, transferred clapped out to Frodingham around 1960 and withdrawn from there 1962.
Strangely, though a Doncaster allocated loco, in all the pics I can find, she hasn't the Doncaster firebox.
 
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