oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Hi Tony.
For some reason it had not registered that you were building 43155. Here's a rather poor photo of it at Eastleigh on 23rd May 1965. It was withdrawn in January 1965 and the records I've seen say it was scrapped in the February at Cashmore's, Newport - three months before I saw it at Eastleigh. It also says it's last shed was Colwick. I believe that a number of these ex M&GN Ivatt 4s went to Eastleigh in 1965 and were cannibalised to keep the remaining members of the class going. In fact, on the same day I have 43007 in the works and a number of the same class in the shed yard including the SVR 43106.
And here are three close ups of the tablet catching apparatus.
The first one is of the tablet catcher in the extended position and the shot above is the catcher closed up against the tender side.
This is a section of a bigger photo again showing the tablet catchere in position and extended.
Sorry I'm a bit late with these. I have some more of the same class, one or two of reasonable quality and a few much less good but you are welcome to copies.
Best regards.
Brian
For some reason it had not registered that you were building 43155. Here's a rather poor photo of it at Eastleigh on 23rd May 1965. It was withdrawn in January 1965 and the records I've seen say it was scrapped in the February at Cashmore's, Newport - three months before I saw it at Eastleigh. It also says it's last shed was Colwick. I believe that a number of these ex M&GN Ivatt 4s went to Eastleigh in 1965 and were cannibalised to keep the remaining members of the class going. In fact, on the same day I have 43007 in the works and a number of the same class in the shed yard including the SVR 43106.
And here are three close ups of the tablet catching apparatus.
The first one is of the tablet catcher in the extended position and the shot above is the catcher closed up against the tender side.
This is a section of a bigger photo again showing the tablet catchere in position and extended.
Sorry I'm a bit late with these. I have some more of the same class, one or two of reasonable quality and a few much less good but you are welcome to copies.
Best regards.
Brian
dibateg
Western Thunderer
Thank you for posting those Brian - they are most welcome. I chose 43155 and 43156 , both Colwick loco's and suitable for the Derby line in 1962. They will be unlined an grubby, despite suggestions I should one lined. No, that's to twee for me...
Any more pictures will be most welcome.
Regards
Tony
Any more pictures will be most welcome.
Regards
Tony
warren haywood
Western Thunderer
Those look like 10" numbers on 43155
Must have had a Donny overhaul
Must have had a Donny overhaul
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I'm pleased the pictures were useful, Tony.
I'll post the rest of the collection some time over the weekend. Hope that'll be in good time for you. One or two good and possibly helpful ones, and several of poor quality. However, I keep the less good one as I often find details which are missing on other pictures.
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Hi again Tony.
Here are the remaining pics of the Ivatt 4. I've kept comments to a minimum. Just let me know if you want any additional details or close ups - not that some of them will take it!
43007 during repair at Eastleigh Works on 23rd May 1965. This was on the same occasion as most of these shots, when Eastleigh had a supply of these in pretty poor condition by the look of it and from which they assembled some decent locos.
So.... here was a surprise. 1st August same year and (for the time) a very tidy looking 43007 at Willesden Shed.
43022, Eastleigh Works Yard, again on 23rd May 1965. Looks as though it may have been a donor for 43007. According to my records it was withdrawn 19th November 1966 and was shedded at Stoke from November 1964, so did it visit Eastleigh from Stoke for repair? Frankly, in this condition and at this time it seems unlikely.
A slightly better shot of 43073 inEastleigh Shed Yard on 23rd May 1965. This one was not withdrawn until August 1967 so is likely to have been in better condition than most and therefore probably underwent some sort of repair. It was reallocated to Workington in July 1965 which suggests it moved there immediately after this repair.
The two above are 43106. Compared with some of the others this one was in pretty good order and most certainly received some sort of attention as it was one of the very last withdrawn, in June 1968. Eastleigh Shed Yard again, 23rd May 1965.
43147, again Eastleigh Shed Yard and again, 23rd May 1965. The coupling Rod on the footplate is always a good indication that the loco is withdrawn and my records say that this was withdrawn from New England on 26th December 1964. It was another of the ex M & GN locos, as most of those I photographed on that day were. In November 1965 it went to Cahsmore's Newport. As Eastleigh is not on a direct route to Newport I believe that it was sent to Eastleigh as a source of spare parts. (A previous image, close up of the tablet apparatus, was in the first few pictures I posted on this thread).
This is a section from another image, also Eastleigh, but the works this time, also on 23rd May 1965. On the low wagon in the background is the cab of an Ivatt 4. I think it's from 43005, withdrawn in November 1965 and probably a donor loco but I cannot absolutely confirm this.
That's all I have. It's just struck me that I may have hi jacked your thread, Tony, but it's in an effort to give you some prototype info. If you want to put this on to a separate thread I'm happy, and perhaps the Administrators will advise. Nevertheless I hope these photos are of at least some interest.
Best regards.
Brian
Here are the remaining pics of the Ivatt 4. I've kept comments to a minimum. Just let me know if you want any additional details or close ups - not that some of them will take it!
43007 during repair at Eastleigh Works on 23rd May 1965. This was on the same occasion as most of these shots, when Eastleigh had a supply of these in pretty poor condition by the look of it and from which they assembled some decent locos.
So.... here was a surprise. 1st August same year and (for the time) a very tidy looking 43007 at Willesden Shed.
43022, Eastleigh Works Yard, again on 23rd May 1965. Looks as though it may have been a donor for 43007. According to my records it was withdrawn 19th November 1966 and was shedded at Stoke from November 1964, so did it visit Eastleigh from Stoke for repair? Frankly, in this condition and at this time it seems unlikely.
A slightly better shot of 43073 inEastleigh Shed Yard on 23rd May 1965. This one was not withdrawn until August 1967 so is likely to have been in better condition than most and therefore probably underwent some sort of repair. It was reallocated to Workington in July 1965 which suggests it moved there immediately after this repair.
The two above are 43106. Compared with some of the others this one was in pretty good order and most certainly received some sort of attention as it was one of the very last withdrawn, in June 1968. Eastleigh Shed Yard again, 23rd May 1965.
43147, again Eastleigh Shed Yard and again, 23rd May 1965. The coupling Rod on the footplate is always a good indication that the loco is withdrawn and my records say that this was withdrawn from New England on 26th December 1964. It was another of the ex M & GN locos, as most of those I photographed on that day were. In November 1965 it went to Cahsmore's Newport. As Eastleigh is not on a direct route to Newport I believe that it was sent to Eastleigh as a source of spare parts. (A previous image, close up of the tablet apparatus, was in the first few pictures I posted on this thread).
This is a section from another image, also Eastleigh, but the works this time, also on 23rd May 1965. On the low wagon in the background is the cab of an Ivatt 4. I think it's from 43005, withdrawn in November 1965 and probably a donor loco but I cannot absolutely confirm this.
That's all I have. It's just struck me that I may have hi jacked your thread, Tony, but it's in an effort to give you some prototype info. If you want to put this on to a separate thread I'm happy, and perhaps the Administrators will advise. Nevertheless I hope these photos are of at least some interest.
Best regards.
Brian
AJC
Western Thunderer
Thanks for those pictures Brian. It's interesting to note that 43106 carries a BR standard pattern smokebox door - as it did into preservation, I think it has a new one now - the straps are different as are the mounting points for the numberplate hence the unusual position. At least one other member of the class, 43070 had this feature (and this is what my 4mm version will be when I get around to it) and that one went to Swindon for its off LMR overhaul.
Adam
Adam
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I'm chuffed that the photos can be put to good use. And thank you, Tony, for allowing them on your thread. I hope 43007 at Willesden may just look grubby but workmanlike.
I'd not noticed the standard pattern smokebox door previously. That's a bit of useful data to add to the details.
Brian
Scanlon
Western Thunderer
Thanks for those pictures Brian. It's interesting to note that 43106 carries a BR standard pattern smokebox door - as it did into preservation, I think it has a new one now - the straps are different as are the mounting points for the numberplate hence the unusual position. At least one other member of the class, 43070 had this feature (and this is what my 4mm version will be when I get around to it) and that one went to Swindon for its off LMR overhaul.
Hi Adam and Tony,
43106 received a BR Standard 4MT smokebox, ring, chimney and smokebox door following overhaul at Eastleigh. She passed into preservation with them but at her last overhaul on the SVR all were replaced with LMS pattern parts including a new chimney, hence the different straps etc.
Roger
Hi Adam and Tony,
43106 received a BR Standard 4MT smokebox, ring, chimney and smokebox door following overhaul at Eastleigh. She passed into preservation with them but at her last overhaul on the SVR all were replaced with LMS pattern parts including a new chimney, hence the different straps etc.
Roger
dibateg
Western Thunderer
I tried the 10" Pressfix numerals, they just seemed too large. 8" are too small, so I think the Fox 9" ones will be best.
So I will give those a go and see how they look. No lining thank goodness. I fancy painting the inside of the cab cream, but would it have been like that at Colwick in 1962? I'm looking forward to the weathering, that will really bring the detail out.
So I will give those a go and see how they look. No lining thank goodness. I fancy painting the inside of the cab cream, but would it have been like that at Colwick in 1962? I'm looking forward to the weathering, that will really bring the detail out.
Scale7JB
Western Thunderer
dibateg
Western Thunderer
So here we are with at last the painted body on the chassis after fitting the decoder. It took about half an hour to assemble it as there are so many pipes and bits to poke into place. There is a lot of work still to do, tidying, windows, buffers, and remaining pipes, as well as weathering down, but you get the idea. The 9" numerals definitely work, 10" just looked far too large.
This is not 43155 which I had in the raw metal at Kettering yesterday, that folks might have seen - I don't work that fast....
And a before shot,
This is not 43155 which I had in the raw metal at Kettering yesterday, that folks might have seen - I don't work that fast....
And a before shot,
7mmMick
Western Thunderer
Bloody Lovely Tony 
At some point I will pick your brains on all that decoder and wiring gubbins as I know nowt about it. What a fantastic model you've produced though, I just want to rush out and buy the kit now
Is the red inner frames and buffer beam a rattle can spray? I only ask as I will need some soon,
Cheers Mick
At some point I will pick your brains on all that decoder and wiring gubbins as I know nowt about it. What a fantastic model you've produced though, I just want to rush out and buy the kit now Is the red inner frames and buffer beam a rattle can spray? I only ask as I will need some soon,Cheers Mick
7mmMick
Western Thunderer
Cheers Tony,
I'll be at York two of the days, Monday and either Saturday or Sunday. Not sure which yet, we'll have to talk electrics over a brew
Are you bringing this beauty along for a closer look ?Mick