Tales from The Room of Doom. Dipping a toe in various bucolic backwaters.
NHY 581
Western Thunderer
Hi Tony,
Well, it probably would have been built by now but several things have got in the way in the meantime.
I decided to wait until this years exhibitions were attended before making a start but once I get going, a layout tends to come together fairly quickly.
The new layout will most likely be a homage to the Mid-Suffolk in the form of an early 1950s set branch line terminus stuffed into the usual 4ft x 16ins footprint.
There is an alternative possibility in the form of a similar BLT, recently aquired by the SE&CR from a failed light railway concern and set in pre-WW1 Kent. Again, stuffed into the same footprint. The tipping point for that to go ahead are some eagerly awaited early SE&CR open wagons.
Usual stuff will be common to both....small locos, minimal small buildings and short trains (obviously, given the size of the layout ) though one will be very much weedier than the other.
Which ever one gets built already has two provisional invites to shows next year......
Rob
NHY 581
Western Thunderer
It is SO tempting to ask which is the loco & which is the brake van in this photo...
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But I really must not. Don't want to upset Rob, & I have a feeling one of his operating team likes to wind him up with comments like that...
Welcome back Rob, honest!!
Thanks, Jordan.
Good to see you. Yes, Pencarrot makes rude remarks about the J70s.
But that's nothing compared to what he had to say about this little chap...........
After a bit of work it should appear on Ewe at some point.
Rob
NHY 581
Western Thunderer
Morning all,
A bit of a restless night so I thought I'd continue the J70 saga.
The bodies, having been further dismantled by the removal of the ends were given an initial spray with the matt varnish to act as a key for the powders.
I decided to follow my "method" of weathering vans and other planked wagons. The bodies of the J70s were painted, rather than varnished wood but I wanted to add my own take on these locos. There is, to the best of my knowledge, only one colour view of these locos. That was taken at Stratford of a loco, post withdrawal. So, we are reliant on those available black and white images, which are open to interpretation. Therefore, this is my interpretation...................
The first powder applied was an overall dusting of smoke, inside and out allowing it to settle into the gaps in the planks. Some shading was applied to the plank detail on the interior of the ends using black on the edges before the smoke was added over the top.
The end doors, were fitted and weathered at the same time. If they were to be modelled open, they were done prior to fitting.
Once happy, the whole body was once again sprayed with matt varnish to seal the powder.
Once dry ( a matter of minutes ), the smoke was removed from each individual plank using a 2mm fibre brush, working horizontally from the centre of the plank out to the edges. Varying the time spent doing this, varied the finished colour. Take "the edge" off the fibre brush first and practice on something first as these locos are effectively unobtanium.
Further variation was added by applying small amounts of dark rust (yep, really) and further smoke to individual planks. This was then worked in using a larger, softer 4mm fibre brush. This in effect polishes the planks but provides both texture and variation.
You cannot rush this. Basically when it looks about right, it probably is. And if you think it might be, put it down and leave well alone or you risk a visit from the Cock-up Fairy.
A bit of white was added to edges here and there and a pencil used to suggest worn metal on the lamp irons etc and that was essentially that.
The rooves had black applied to the rain strips and around the chimney. Bells were picked out using gold acrylic and the whole roof was the weatgered using a mixture of dark earth and smoke before being sealed.
All three were weathered in this way and rightly vary from one to the other, providing the finish I was after.
Rob.
A bit of a restless night so I thought I'd continue the J70 saga.
The bodies, having been further dismantled by the removal of the ends were given an initial spray with the matt varnish to act as a key for the powders.
I decided to follow my "method" of weathering vans and other planked wagons. The bodies of the J70s were painted, rather than varnished wood but I wanted to add my own take on these locos. There is, to the best of my knowledge, only one colour view of these locos. That was taken at Stratford of a loco, post withdrawal. So, we are reliant on those available black and white images, which are open to interpretation. Therefore, this is my interpretation...................
The first powder applied was an overall dusting of smoke, inside and out allowing it to settle into the gaps in the planks. Some shading was applied to the plank detail on the interior of the ends using black on the edges before the smoke was added over the top.
The end doors, were fitted and weathered at the same time. If they were to be modelled open, they were done prior to fitting.
Once happy, the whole body was once again sprayed with matt varnish to seal the powder.
Once dry ( a matter of minutes ), the smoke was removed from each individual plank using a 2mm fibre brush, working horizontally from the centre of the plank out to the edges. Varying the time spent doing this, varied the finished colour. Take "the edge" off the fibre brush first and practice on something first as these locos are effectively unobtanium.
Further variation was added by applying small amounts of dark rust (yep, really) and further smoke to individual planks. This was then worked in using a larger, softer 4mm fibre brush. This in effect polishes the planks but provides both texture and variation.
You cannot rush this. Basically when it looks about right, it probably is. And if you think it might be, put it down and leave well alone or you risk a visit from the Cock-up Fairy.
A bit of white was added to edges here and there and a pencil used to suggest worn metal on the lamp irons etc and that was essentially that.
The rooves had black applied to the rain strips and around the chimney. Bells were picked out using gold acrylic and the whole roof was the weatgered using a mixture of dark earth and smoke before being sealed.
All three were weathered in this way and rightly vary from one to the other, providing the finish I was after.
Rob.
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James Spooner
Western Thunderer
Many thanks Rob and I will need now to take a deep breath and gird my loins to do battle with mine.
Nigel
NHY 581
Western Thunderer
Morning Nigel,
If you are going to take a fibre brush and powders to your J70, I would most definitely attack an old van or two first. I've been weathering stock in this way for about eight years now and it can still go wrong if I don't pay attention........hence the put it down and walk away suggestion.
The key thing to remember is that the resulting finish depends on taking paint away...............
Rob.
Herb Garden
Western Thunderer
Oh that's lovely.... Can't wait to see it blended in with the rest of the fleet
paulhb
Active Member
Hi Rob,
Just popped in to WT for first time in a few days and a lovely welcome surprise to see you back. I will sit back later with a cuppa to catch up on the thread but am interested in your forthcoming Italian adventure. Have attached a few photo's of a similar but different small preserved tank engine taken at Guastalla near Regio Emilia back in 2005 and a surprise find. Not the best quality as taken quickly from a carriage window on the hoof so to speak.
Regards Paul
michael mott
Western Thunderer
What a wonderful surprise this morning to see you posting again welcome back Rob I also see that Geoff of this Parrish is not the only one posing railway bylines pics as models.
Thanks for the step by steps on the weathering of these little locos a great job as the above picture attests, I can almost smell the oily steam and chill in the air.
Again welcome back!
Michael
Thanks for the step by steps on the weathering of these little locos a great job as the above picture attests, I can almost smell the oily steam and chill in the air.
Again welcome back!
Michael
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michael mott
Western Thunderer
Rob this is my other favorite pic this morning
Michael
Michael
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Looks like a Henschel export Preußen T3 with Walschaerts rather than Allan valve gear.
Joe's Garage
Western Thunderer
It is so good to see you back Rob and the J70 looks fantastic. You just can't get enough of them!! The close up shots are excellent and really show the level of detail in the models.
I do also like the Italian 060, interesting diversion.
Looking forward to more.
It is like Sherlock Holmes and the Final Problem, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had to bring him back due to the public outcry!! You must have heard us all shouting....more "dirty work"!!
All the best
Julian
I do also like the Italian 060, interesting diversion.
Looking forward to more.
It is like Sherlock Holmes and the Final Problem, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had to bring him back due to the public outcry!! You must have heard us all shouting....more "dirty work"!!
All the best
Julian
