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Western Thunderer
Hello Martin

Just an update on my progress at Kingswell Street. Sadly, I have made no advance with the problem Bassett-Lowke SR 2-6-0 Mogul, which still refuses to run properly in forward gear (but runs fine in reverse). Nothing daunted, I have jumped in at the deep end again, this time with rather happier results.

Another B-L engine caught my eye in a Vectis auction. Not this time the giddy heights of a B17, but a fairly commonplace LMS 4-4-0 Compound, but in this instance a rather uncommonplace example of one. This is the final iteration of the LMS liveried Compound, numbered 1082, produced for a short period in the late 1940s before the change to the black BR version. (On the internet I have found an original sales receipt for one of these from 1952, so they were being sold as late as this).

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What caught my attention was the fact that the engine was clockwork, and also its splendid condition. I could also see that a previous owner had made some tasteful modifications - sprung buffers, three-link couplings, and larger diameter bogie wheels. I also spotted that the driving wheels were not the expected 14 spoke Mazak variety, but 18 spoke. They turned out to be cast-iron, like the electric drive version, but pressed-on rather than centre-nutted. When the loco arrived, it did not disappoint.

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The new bogie wheels are cast-iron, and the tender wheels have been changed too, so there is no Mazak on this engine. As you can see, the buffer and coupling changes have been done very neatly (and I would think it was a professional job). Of course, these changes mean the Compound is no longer really collectible, which was to my advantage in the auction.

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As you can see, the engine does not seem to have had much use - there is very little wear on the mechanism, and hardly any dust on the finish, let alone dirt. It almost makes me wonder whether it has been stored in a display case (it did not come with a box).

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The larger bogie wheels really do improve the appearance of the front end, but I would think there is no chance that it would negotiate 2 foot radius curves with this setup. The very good news is that 1082 is a splendid runner - I just gave the mech a service and lube, and she goes like a new engine. Quiet, smooth, and with excellent controls.

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So here is the latest addition to our MPD, seen on a running-in turn at the head of a local train to Gloucester. These Compounds were a Bassett-Lowke classic, in this tinprinted and tabbed form lasting from introduction in the 1928 catalogue as number 1190 right through to the end of Bassett-Lowke in 1965 in its BR livery.

John
Hi again John

By way of a PS.

Check the tender wheels on your compound. The tender appears to be riding far too low. I wonder if someone has fitted BL cast iron wagon wheels — 21 mm in diameter — rather than tender wheels which should be c.28 mm diameter. 3.5 mm would bring the platform at the front of the tender up to the level of the loco footplate.

Martin
 

40057

Western Thunderer
Yes Martin, well spotted. The tender wheels seem to be too small enough! So now I have another hard to find item on my list . . . .

John
Hi John

I think your options for replacement tender wheels are:
1. Find a set of alloy B/L tender wheels and put back what was there originally.
2. Get new wheel-sets made by Walsall Model Industries, or if you have the facilities, buy their castings and turn them yourself. Walsall will have a casting very close in appearance to B/L 28 mm tender wheels.

You cannot, unfortunately, use original B/L cast iron tender wheels. Not easily, anyway. A standard B/L item as used on the Stanier tenders for the Duchess and Royal Scot. However, the frames on the Stanier tender are much closer together than on the tab-and-slot tenders, so the axles on B/L cast iron tender wheel sets are not long enough to use in a Compound tender.

I don’t think you will find it too difficult to obtain original alloy tender wheel sets. Walsall will turn their castings to B/L standards if that’s what you specify. My experience is they are quick and reliable.

Martin
 
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