WellThatDiddntGoToWell
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Nice work, the cab side profile looks a whole lot better than the original Limby 121, have you played around with the overall tumblehome or just the cabs?
Regards Dean
Regards Dean
P4 New Street
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Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Hi All
Earlier in the year I was messing about with Lima 47s, remember...
well I was quite pleased with how it came out and I later got hold of a vitrains chassis for it (my original plan was to use it as a light loco). Then I was talking to my friend Phil about 47s (hes more interested in them than me - not that thats difficult!) and had come to conclusion that of them all the Lima one is probably closest to a real loco except for the windscreens (which are too close together and over a mm too narrow (each)). So following his lead and with some of Brian's (shawplan) etches 47549 has gone back onto the workbench. Below is progress so far.
Cheers
Jim
Earlier in the year I was messing about with Lima 47s, remember...
well I was quite pleased with how it came out and I later got hold of a vitrains chassis for it (my original plan was to use it as a light loco). Then I was talking to my friend Phil about 47s (hes more interested in them than me - not that thats difficult!) and had come to conclusion that of them all the Lima one is probably closest to a real loco except for the windscreens (which are too close together and over a mm too narrow (each)). So following his lead and with some of Brian's (shawplan) etches 47549 has gone back onto the workbench. Below is progress so far.
Cheers
Jim
Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Another little project on my to do list is 3 of these
however these have the wrong window layout for the HST's I am modelling and I need the 4 large window versions. I am hoping with some of Brian's window frames and a bit of drilling, filing and filling I will get away with only needing to respray the grey areas (I don't fancy trying to match those white lines with the rest of the rake). This one is going to be a prototype.
I never realised that Lima modelled a different underframe for these.
Cheers
Jim
however these have the wrong window layout for the HST's I am modelling and I need the 4 large window versions. I am hoping with some of Brian's window frames and a bit of drilling, filing and filling I will get away with only needing to respray the grey areas (I don't fancy trying to match those white lines with the rest of the rake). This one is going to be a prototype.
I never realised that Lima modelled a different underframe for these.
Cheers
Jim
Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Mk3 TRSB project part 2.
The windows have been adjusted (2 requiring minor filling and 3 opening up a bit more) and Brian's frames added - not to self, spray a coat of varnish over the sides first next time to protect the lining better. The numbers and markings easily scrape off and luckily so does the red stripe!
Next stage, varnish the sides and mask/respray the grey. I will then look at sorting out the bogies and adding underframe details along with what changes need to be made to the roof vents.
Cheers
Jim
The windows have been adjusted (2 requiring minor filling and 3 opening up a bit more) and Brian's frames added - not to self, spray a coat of varnish over the sides first next time to protect the lining better. The numbers and markings easily scrape off and luckily so does the red stripe!
Next stage, varnish the sides and mask/respray the grey. I will then look at sorting out the bogies and adding underframe details along with what changes need to be made to the roof vents.
Cheers
Jim
Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Hi All
A couple of dodgy pictures for you.
In real life a shot like this would probably not get taken due to the shadows cast on the subject.
New Street's lighting conditions have always been bad for photographs and as such a large proportion of pictures taken under the roof are reproduced in black and white. This is to mask the overly yellow lights under the roof combined with the overly blue light coming in from the outside. This is whats known as 'cross curves' and is bad. In this case I have added them back in to reproduce the effect.
The point of all this is the real world doesnt always give us the perfect lighting conditions that we often re-create with our models. Sometimes its good to take a picture of a model that isnt ideal.
Cheers
Jim
A couple of dodgy pictures for you.
In real life a shot like this would probably not get taken due to the shadows cast on the subject.
New Street's lighting conditions have always been bad for photographs and as such a large proportion of pictures taken under the roof are reproduced in black and white. This is to mask the overly yellow lights under the roof combined with the overly blue light coming in from the outside. This is whats known as 'cross curves' and is bad. In this case I have added them back in to reproduce the effect.
The point of all this is the real world doesnt always give us the perfect lighting conditions that we often re-create with our models. Sometimes its good to take a picture of a model that isnt ideal.
Cheers
Jim
Wagonman
Western Thunderer
That is truly perverse (speaking as an ex-photographer of the analogue variety) but very effective! This is a superb project.
Richard
lancer1027
Western Thunderer
Excellent pics
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As already said the 86 pic looks so real
Rob
.As already said the 86 pic looks so real
Rob
Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Ok then...
Another 'far from ideal' pic for you (lights via photoshop)
Right, thats enough photography, back to the modelling! One project that has been in the back of my mind for ages goes back to mark 3 coaches. The loco hauled variety were rare but not unheard of at New Street during the period I am modelling (they seemed to stay on the trent valley route) so with that in mind I have been busy doing another prototype ahead of a possible batch of them.
The starting place for this was the ancient Jouef model which despite being the only Mk3a ever produced also has something about it that the others dont to my mind.
Cheers
Jim
Another 'far from ideal' pic for you (lights via photoshop)
Right, thats enough photography, back to the modelling! One project that has been in the back of my mind for ages goes back to mark 3 coaches. The loco hauled variety were rare but not unheard of at New Street during the period I am modelling (they seemed to stay on the trent valley route) so with that in mind I have been busy doing another prototype ahead of a possible batch of them.
The starting place for this was the ancient Jouef model which despite being the only Mk3a ever produced also has something about it that the others dont to my mind.
Cheers
Jim
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Right, thats enough photography, back to the modelling! One project that has been in the back of my mind for ages goes back to mark 3 coaches. The loco hauled variety were rare but not unheard of at New Street during the period I am modelling (they seemed to stay on the trent valley route) so with that in mind I have been busy doing another prototype ahead of a possible batch of them.
The starting place for this was the ancient Jouef model which despite being the only Mk3a ever produced also has something about it that the others dont to my mind.
Cheers
Jim
Jim,
I know what you mean - I've got a stack of them in t'other room for my prototype HST set (with modified catering cars, of course), The only problem I found working with them was that the plastic was pretty brittle and needed careful work.
On the strength of your prototype I think I'd be tempted to get that batch done...
Just wondering if you did anything to the bogies to prepare them for P4 running?
Steph
Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Hi steph
I have some brittle ones. It reems pretty random which are brittle which are not. Theres a little bit of work on the bogies which is explained on my workbench page of my website
www.p4newstreet.com
Cheers
Jim
I have some brittle ones. It reems pretty random which are brittle which are not. Theres a little bit of work on the bogies which is explained on my workbench page of my website
www.p4newstreet.com
Cheers
Jim
Jordan
Mid-Western Thunderer
Seconded!! The angle suggests the photographer was on the staircase, but the 'look' is exactly "as it was" with that lighting!!
Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Hi all
Been busy looking at glasing for my mark 3's
On the Intercity coach I reused the original glasing (except for the toilet windows) but treated it to a coat of Tamiya smoke. On the TRSB I cut new windows from a brown plastic wallet I found in a stationers. (you would be surprised how hard it is to find tinted plastics – if anyone knows of a supplier please let me know). This was secured in place with Klear
Cheers
Jim
Been busy looking at glasing for my mark 3's
On the Intercity coach I reused the original glasing (except for the toilet windows) but treated it to a coat of Tamiya smoke. On the TRSB I cut new windows from a brown plastic wallet I found in a stationers. (you would be surprised how hard it is to find tinted plastics – if anyone knows of a supplier please let me know). This was secured in place with Klear
Cheers
Jim
Jim S-W
Western Thunderer
Hi All
I have added some thoughts on 4mm scale class 47s to my workbench
see http://www.p4newstreet.com/category/workbench
Cheers
Jim
I have added some thoughts on 4mm scale class 47s to my workbench
see http://www.p4newstreet.com/category/workbench
Cheers
Jim
