4mm Monks Ferry LNWR

[jonte]

Following instruction, I’m intending to paint appropriately two or three areas in bauxite.

Unfortunately, images of these long ago signals seem hard to come by and those in paintings seem daubed in anything from Smokey brown to, well, brown. There’s a (printed) image on the Wizard pamphlet with a bright coloured orangey/red which is probably more akin, but I’m looking to go down a subtler route.

Nothing ready made seemed to suit until I hit on this which seemed more in keeping so I plumped for it:



But when it arrived, it was deeper and lighter in colour.

I’m hoping that a thinly applied coat or two over the black undercoat might tone it down; an additional mist of white subduing it.

Bottom line: nobody’s around anymore who will remember the earlier signal livery, so reckon I should get away with it.

jonte

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I’m hoping that a thinly applied coat or two over the black undercoat might tone it down; an additional mist of white subduing it.

I'd try one or two thin washes of cavalry brown/oxide over the existing grey primer and let that subdue it. You can always lightly dry brush with ivory or a very pale grey to accentuate a few highlights. I think a black undercoat will grin through darken the colour.

Bottom line: nobody’s around anymore who will remember the earlier signal livery, so reckon I should get away with it.

I wouldn't worry, go with what looks right to you from your interpretation of any descriptions available. If anyone deigns to criticise - ask them for photographic evidence. That should keep them quiet .

Reams, if not volumes, have been written about colour and the scaling of colour in this and other forums. At the end of the day the colour standards and pigment mixes stipulated by any railway company only appear as that colour when first applied. The next day it starts deteriorating through the actions of weather, UV light, airborne pollutants and cleaning.

My grandfather, who passed away in 1987, always told my dad and myself he could see the Midland Railway locomotive colours in his mind's eye but could never quite capture it exactly when trying to recreate it while painting pictures or models.

 

[Debs.]

My grandfather, who passed away in 1987, always told my dad and myself he could see the Midland Railway locomotive colours in his mind's eye but could never quite capture it exactly when trying to recreate it while painting pictures or models.

I feel the same about the ubiquity of B.R Blue, we're all so familiar with it, but I've never seen a model that accurately represents now, what our eyes saw at the time.

I have a form of synaesthesia; Chromesthesia (blended senses; to simplify 'I hear colour and see sounds').
So I can hear the small pitch change caused in hue between livery paint variants; but, nobody listens when I say Dapol and Heljan blues sound weird!

 

[jonte]

I'd try one or two thin washes of cavalry brown/oxide over the existing grey primer and let that subdue it. You can always lightly dry brush with ivory or a very pale grey to accentuate a few highlights. I think a black undercoat will grin through darken the colour.



I wouldn't worry, go with what looks right to you from your interpretation of any descriptions available. If anyone deigns to criticise - ask them for photographic evidence. That should keep them quiet .

Reams, if not volumes, have been written about colour and the scaling of colour in this and other forums. At the end of the day the colour standards and pigment mixes stipulated by any railway company only appear as that colour when first applied. The next day it starts deteriorating through the actions of weather, UV light, airborne pollutants and cleaning.

My grandfather, who passed away in 1987, always told my dad and myself he could see the Midland Railway locomotive colours in his mind's eye but could never quite capture it exactly when trying to recreate it while painting pictures or models.

I feel the same about the ubiquity of B.R Blue, we're all so familiar with it, but I've never seen a model that accurately represents now, what our eyes saw at the time.

I have a form of synaesthesia; Chromesthesia (blended senses; to simplify 'I hear colour and see sounds').
So I can hear the small pitch change caused in hue between livery paint variants; but, nobody listens when I say Dapol and Heljan blues sound weird!

Debs and Dave.

Your opinions/contributions are more than appreciated.

I really couldn’t have put it better.

Thank you, both.

Jon

 

[jonte]

@AdeMoore : if you’re reading this, Ade, thank you as always for your kind and keen interest which is very much appreciated.

Best,

Jon

 

[AdeMoore]

@AdeMoore : if you’re reading this, Ade, thank you as always for your kind and keen interest which is very much appreciated.

Best,

Jon

As always Jon, loving your work. Nice little videos of the signals working. Paint is coming along and will transform them.

 

[jonte]

Popped out to the ‘shop earlier to attempt the next stage in the painting process.

Took me longer re familiarising myself with the cleaning substances and thinners, followed by a laborious process of attempting to remove the cup cap which had managed to weld itself on in the months since I last used it due to a thin line of residual paint around the cap seal. In the end, I reached for the matches…….

Cleaned up accordingly, everything else was fine n dandy.

Then to my outright disappointment, I discovered that all that remained of my Tamiya black (acrylic) was approximately six tiny drops (I’ve Ammo, Humbrol, Vallejo, Revell; the list goes on; in my humble, Tamiya is without doubt the best behaved). Anyway, I managed to accomplish the task with the assistance of the Ammo stuff chosen at random. The other good thing about using Tamiya is that it’s stocked by the everywhere stores like Hobbycraft and The Range which saves on having to travel distances to the nearest modelling shops or fork out hefty carriage charges from specialist suppliers.

So just before reaching fir the trigger, I remembered Dave’s kind advice about masking off the base of the posts to ensure an optimal hue for the bauxite, so dug out my supply of Tamiya tape in a variety of thinnesses’. Re-reading the notes accompanying, I noted that the bases of LNWR posts set in the Mediaeval period, which is the period I’ve chosen to cobble a model railway together, were painted as such up to a height of 5’, which I think my humble math (math never maths, guys. Well according to those clever emeritus profs anyway. You know the types: those that ensure that our Unis secure funding each n every year by making up stuff like Global Warming and convincing their mates in government and media that it’s real stuff ) equates to twenty milli or so in 4mm scale. Using a measuring stick placed up against the post, it simply didn’t sit right with me (just the way I am, I suppose), so inthe end I selected the thickest bit of thin masking tape supplied by my Oriental friends which I reckoned looked about right; to my wonky eyes any road.

So off I squirted. Then I stopped, as I recalled from the accompanying notes once more: ALL the ironwork - including the caps - were bauxite! Too late.

Never mind, Dave, I tried:



Till next time, thanks for reading.

jonte

 

[40057]

those that ensure that our Unis secure funding each n every year by making up stuff like Global Warming and convincing their mates in government and media that it’s real stuff

Hi Jonte

Err… I can’t help noticing that in recent posts you have been complaining about the unbearable heat. How right you are, record breaking temperatures and heat waves. And not just this year, but more and more frequently in recent decades. Around 2,700 heat-related deaths in May and June in England and Wales alone, over 10,000 across Europe.

Nobody has made this stuff up.

I realise your remarks may have not been entirely serious, but climate change certainly is.

Martin