4mm Monks Ferry LNWR

[jonte]

Following instruction, I’m intending to paint appropriately two or three areas in bauxite.

Unfortunately, images of these long ago signals seem hard to come by and those in paintings seem daubed in anything from Smokey brown to, well, brown. There’s a (printed) image on the Wizard pamphlet with a bright coloured orangey/red which is probably more akin, but I’m looking to go down a subtler route.

Nothing ready made seemed to suit until I hit on this which seemed more in keeping so I plumped for it:



But when it arrived, it was deeper and lighter in colour.

I’m hoping that a thinly applied coat or two over the black undercoat might tone it down; an additional mist of white subduing it.

Bottom line: nobody’s around anymore who will remember the earlier signal livery, so reckon I should get away with it.

jonte

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I’m hoping that a thinly applied coat or two over the black undercoat might tone it down; an additional mist of white subduing it.

I'd try one or two thin washes of cavalry brown/oxide over the existing grey primer and let that subdue it. You can always lightly dry brush with ivory or a very pale grey to accentuate a few highlights. I think a black undercoat will grin through darken the colour.

Bottom line: nobody’s around anymore who will remember the earlier signal livery, so reckon I should get away with it.

I wouldn't worry, go with what looks right to you from your interpretation of any descriptions available. If anyone deigns to criticise - ask them for photographic evidence. That should keep them quiet .

Reams, if not volumes, have been written about colour and the scaling of colour in this and other forums. At the end of the day the colour standards and pigment mixes stipulated by any railway company only appear as that colour when first applied. The next day it starts deteriorating through the actions of weather, UV light, airborne pollutants and cleaning.

My grandfather, who passed away in 1987, always told my dad and myself he could see the Midland Railway locomotive colours in his mind's eye but could never quite capture it exactly when trying to recreate it while painting pictures or models.

 

[Debs.]

My grandfather, who passed away in 1987, always told my dad and myself he could see the Midland Railway locomotive colours in his mind's eye but could never quite capture it exactly when trying to recreate it while painting pictures or models.

I feel the same about the ubiquity of B.R Blue, we're all so familiar with it, but I've never seen a model that accurately represents now, what our eyes saw at the time.

I have a form of synaesthesia; Chromesthesia (blended senses; to simplify 'I hear colour and see sounds').
So I can hear the small pitch change caused in hue between livery paint variants; but, nobody listens when I say Dapol and Heljan blues sound weird!

 

[jonte]

I'd try one or two thin washes of cavalry brown/oxide over the existing grey primer and let that subdue it. You can always lightly dry brush with ivory or a very pale grey to accentuate a few highlights. I think a black undercoat will grin through darken the colour.



I wouldn't worry, go with what looks right to you from your interpretation of any descriptions available. If anyone deigns to criticise - ask them for photographic evidence. That should keep them quiet .

Reams, if not volumes, have been written about colour and the scaling of colour in this and other forums. At the end of the day the colour standards and pigment mixes stipulated by any railway company only appear as that colour when first applied. The next day it starts deteriorating through the actions of weather, UV light, airborne pollutants and cleaning.

My grandfather, who passed away in 1987, always told my dad and myself he could see the Midland Railway locomotive colours in his mind's eye but could never quite capture it exactly when trying to recreate it while painting pictures or models.

I feel the same about the ubiquity of B.R Blue, we're all so familiar with it, but I've never seen a model that accurately represents now, what our eyes saw at the time.

I have a form of synaesthesia; Chromesthesia (blended senses; to simplify 'I hear colour and see sounds').
So I can hear the small pitch change caused in hue between livery paint variants; but, nobody listens when I say Dapol and Heljan blues sound weird!

Debs and Dave.

Your opinions/contributions are more than appreciated.

I really couldn’t have put it better.

Thank you, both.

Jon

 

[jonte]

@AdeMoore : if you’re reading this, Ade, thank you as always for your kind and keen interest which is very much appreciated.

Best,

Jon

 

[AdeMoore]

@AdeMoore : if you’re reading this, Ade, thank you as always for your kind and keen interest which is very much appreciated.

Best,

Jon

As always Jon, loving your work. Nice little videos of the signals working. Paint is coming along and will transform them.