Mickoo's BR modelling

[dibateg]

When I built my pair of JLTRT Derbys, I thought it was a nonsense that you couldnt get the wheelsets out, so I drilled and pinned them:-



Obvs wont work with your model Mick - but in the future...

For some reason - I have a couple of right hand 25 frames if you need them...

Cheers
Tony

 

[mickoo]

When I built my pair of JLTRT Derbys, I thought it was a nonsense that you couldnt get the wheelsets out, so I drilled and pinned them:-
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Obvs wont work with your model Mick - but in the future...

For some reason - I have a couple of right hand 25 frames if you need them...

Cheers
Tony

What a spiffingly good idea, I have another unbuilt 25 to do, a 26 and a brace of 47's so will explore that method on those

I'm alright for side frames at the moment.........but duly noted

 

[SimonT]

Mick,
I did a similar trick on all the locos on Aberbig. A strap and pin bonded to the bogie outside casting; a 10BA screw attaches the strap to the top surface of the bogie inner. Two pins to locate the outside correctly. Photos if you want

 

[john lewsey]

Mick,
I did a similar trick on all the locos on Aberbig. A strap and pin bonded to the bogie outside casting; a 10BA screw attaches the strap to the top surface of the bogie inner. Two pins to locate the outside correctly. Photos if you want

Hiya Simon ,did you ever do a video of Abberbig ?

 

[mickoo]

A little BR blue time this afternoon, I had to get a supplementary sheets done for the Urie S15 so added a rad grill and step blanks (not fitted) for the 25. quick waft with a file and some dabs of solder and the big hole now has a grill.

For some odd reason the boiler vent had been hacked off, not sure what's here on the virgin kit roof or why it was taken off bu a new 3D one was whizzed up and fitted, for the anoraks it has a slotted intake where it meets the hatches right near the centre line, it's a little nick nack but it ticked my boxes.

 

[Cliff Williams]

Mick I think it sticks out a bit more than that. Originally it’s a whitemetal casting on the model, produced to be too large, I cut mine down
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[mickoo]

Yes, I think you're probably right, bollox.....

I'll see if I can pry it off and shuffle it out a fraction or print a new one with a wider lip and fit. Your shot confirms it pretty much follows the headcode box profile

 

[mickoo]

Pat and his black and white cat delivered these today.

Although I already have two on back order with MOK, this one turned up on Ebay earlier in the week with metal wheels and requisite motor/gearbox, it was rude not to make it a trio.

I do have a plan for one of the three to rebuild but just need to check some drawings. These three will all be mine on top of two commissions later in the year, one full and one engine only.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I do have a plan for one of the three to rebuild but just need to check some drawings. These three will all be mine

I trust they will be finished in filthy black without a trace of green .

Why not build one as a cab forward for a laugh . That'll get the chattering classes going.

 

[Genghis]

I am thoroughly enjoying my build of this. I too have one in my personal stash: it's going to be 92250. I've had the chimney longer than I've had the kit.

 

[mickoo]

Class 25 body already for top coats, finally got around to filling the water hatch filler steps and add etched blanking overlays and fit a slightly larger 3D boiler vent, also filled some joint gaps and pre-shaded.

I may go back before I do the blue and preshade the covered panels at the #2 end by the doors and a bit more around the headcode boxes around the gutter area.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I may go back before I do the blue and preshade the covered panels at the #2 end by the doors and a bit more around the headcode boxes around the gutter area.

I would also give a light coating of ivory (or off white) a few degrees from the vertical - but not directly over - from the top so it hits the top edges, cab fronts and corners as they would have been prone to more wet weather attrition by being driven into it.

Ideally you would spray the 'pre-shading' black upwards (or downwards if the body is upside down) so the shading sits under the raised panels, window frames, gutter, panel joins, light housings, etc.

 

[SouthernFan Ian]

Class 25 body already for top coats, finally got around to filling the water hatch filler steps and add etched blanking overlays and fit a slightly larger 3D boiler vent, also filled some joint gaps and pre-shaded.

I may go back before I do the blue and preshade the covered panels at the #2 end by the doors and a bit more around the headcode boxes around the gutter area.

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This is the first time I’ve seen pre shading on a railway model. Aircraft and military modellers use pre shading with great effect. Cannot wait to see the end result. Well done on pushing the boundaries Mick.

 

[adrian]

This is the first time I’ve seen pre shading on a railway model. Aircraft and military modellers use pre shading with great effect. Cannot wait to see the end result. Well done on pushing the boundaries Mick.

The Guv'nor started it more than a few years ago, which Mick picked up on pretty quickly in the replies.

7mm - Loose Ends

That is a spectacular workshop - it's better fitted out that my kitchen! Love the spice rack. Do you do this for a job as well as a hobby? I do seem to be doing a lot of concept modelling for architects so I guess I may be an freelance architectural model maker rather than CAD guy:) Yes i...

www.westernthunder.co.uk

 

[mickoo]

The Guv'nor started it more than a few years ago, which Mick picked up on pretty quickly in the replies.

7mm - Loose Ends

That is a spectacular workshop - it's better fitted out that my kitchen! Love the spice rack. Do you do this for a job as well as a hobby? I do seem to be doing a lot of concept modelling for architects so I guess I may be an freelance architectural model maker rather than CAD guy:) Yes i...

www.westernthunder.co.uk

Blimey I'd forgotten the Guv's work, possibly one of the first to apply it to model railways, I can't recall seeing it before or since to be fair, except in military circles of course.

 

[SimonT]

This is the first time I’ve seen pre shading on a railway model

You obviously didn't see Laramie! The technique was used on most of the vehicles on the layout. AK do a boxed set of Panzer crew paints that are perfect for the next coats on black locomotives.

 

[mickoo]

This is the first time I’ve seen pre shading on a railway model. Aircraft and military modellers use pre shading with great effect. Cannot wait to see the end result. Well done on pushing the boundaries Mick.

It is very common in military modeling, which is where I returned from way back yonder having migrated there from OO via girls, wife, kids, flight sim CAD work, war-gaming (Napoleonic) and 1:35/1:48 military modeling.

It works best with light colours for larger areas but the grills and recesses will be the biggest gain as you don't have to worry or struggle to get the top coat (blue) into all the grooves (to then later pin wash them for definition).

Dave is right, it also need some lighter areas, specifically the headcode box top and cab corners and maybe a bit along the can't rail.

A large portion of the 25 roof is fiberglass panels and being rougher than the surrounding smooth metal work really hold the dirt much better, in many cases they're almost pure black so pre-shading doesn't work there, in which case I'll have to cut back the weathering up there and have a semi grubby 25.

 

[mickoo]

You obviously didn't see Laramie! The technique was used on most of the vehicles on the layout. AK do a boxed set of Panzer crew paints that are perfect for the next coats on black locomotives.

I wasn't sure if the Veranda had been pre-shaded, but looking now the harder/deeper shadow under the walkway lip suggests it had been.



I'm not a big fan of heavily weathered models and my Veranda has had some done in the past by a previous owner but it really needs more like the Laramie one to be fair. I can't pre-shade mine as it's already painted and decalled so it'd all be on top which will be much harder work.

 

[SimonT]

I'm not sure that Pete did it to the Veranda but he did do the Big Boys and the freight vehicles that sat on the spur. The Veranda was just good weathering.