Hairy Bikers and Other Petrol Heads

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
I've not been in this situation with a car but we've had a problem with water leaking from a neighbour's house in a previous abode and we tried to claim on their insurance, but the procedure was to claim on ours and the loss adjusters probably sorted it out thereafter. We had a similar situation in a new house which suffered from subsidence(!) We tried to claim on the builder (NHBC Guarantee and all that) but were referred back to our insurance company, so I guess the same thing happened there. I guess it's normal practice to claim on your own insurance and let them sort it out. It's all jobs for the boys, isn't it?

Brian
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
Classic car ?

Not yet! It’s an '08 Skoda Roomster 2. Apparently, according to some fool on the interwebs, a "future classic". I have resolved, therefore, to try and keep it going as long as possible, and when funds permit get it properly valeted. Might need new alloys, though.
 

Max M

Western Thunderer
When he hooked up the diagnostics it came up with not a fault but a hundred faults :eek:
Removal of door pillar trim to get to wiring harness revealed quite a bit of vegetation and a water mark 10" up on the inside.
Many years ago we drove into a flooded road that was deeper than we thought.
Once out the car started and ran OK and got us home and was written of without issue.

Some months later I had a telephone call asking if I still had the keys which made me think someone was trying to put it back on the road.
I still had them but said I hadn't as I didn't want to abet a sale by someone (perhaps) being duped into buying a flood damaged vehicle.
I know not if it ever did go back on the road.

This and Mr Osgood's tale demonstrates the importance of running HPI checks before buying used vehicles.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
The only new car I have ever owned (and that was too many years ago) was itself barely a few months old when I got caught in a flooding incident! We (wife and baby Tom) had been invited to a Friday night, staff "do" at the office in Sudbury on a wet and bitterly cold November evening.

As we drove home - with Tom wrapped up and strapped in his (then new fangled type) child seat at the rear, we encountered some rather horrible, and fast running floods. At one point, and at a particularly remote location, the familiar road dipped into a fairly tight double bend. As I arrived, I realised that the water was clearly too deep to traverse, so elected to turn around for a diversion. Travelling a short distance back, I was horrified to discover that the water was rapidly rising behind me - and that we were now in fact stranded.

Back then, pre mobile phones of course, there was no way of summoning assistance. What was particularly worrying was that we were completely out of sight - on a fast disappearing "island" - and with a vulnerable baby on board!

I turned round again and looked hard at the only perceived exit - that double bend section. I knew that there was a decent slope at the far end to climb out, and that a post-and-wire fence running on the nearside of, and exactly parallel with the road for the whole distance might provide a reasonably good indication of the depth of water - as well as being able to use its location for the best alignment to take across the growing "lake", and grasp at any advantage of cambers in the submerged roadway!

I decided that if we stayed where we were, the rising water would almost certainly inundate us - and in the pitch dark, the chances of rescue were terribly slim - whereas, by taking a chance, driving on might give us a fighting chance of at least reaching the "visible" section, and a much shorter distance to wade on foot?!

Crazy!!

Knowing exactly where my air filter intake, battery terminals and distributor were located perhaps gave me a touch of confidence, so I pressed the accelerator hard to floor, and drove very slowly forward by slipping the clutch in first gear. The trick was to keep full pressure in the exhaust by revving hard and continuously - to prevent water from "backing" up the pipe, and to keep moving slowly enough not to generate the slightest hint of a "bow wave"! I wound my window fully down, and hung myself out as far as I could to observe our progress through!

The deep, rumbling and gushing noise from aft, and gentler gurgling all round was incredibly akin to the sounds of a large Broads cruiser approaching it's moorings!!

We kept going!

Unfortunately, the door seals didn't put up any sort of fight to keep us watertight though, and we, (apart from young, blissfully slumbering Thomas - perched high and dry in his seat) quickly ended up with our bums completely submerged.

I continued, reasoning that while the top half of our headlights remained just above the surface, we should be OK?!

As we rounded the final, left turn towards the straight - and safety - we were relieved to see a police car parked on the still dry slope - presumably to protect idiot drivers from their own stupidity?!

Onward we came... and spotting us, the copper jumped out of his car, walked down to the waters edge, and stood there, with what I might try to describe as an incredulous stance, observing our unlikely looking vessel getting ever nearer!

As we pulled up the "ramp", said copper stepped aside and turned, stooping towards my open window - but before he got the chance to speak, I shouted and gesticulated:

"Hold on mate... step back will you please... well back!"

I then opened my door... and a torrent of water poured forth!

He wasn't best pleased that I had made his feet soaking wet - but he did see the funny side - eventually!!

I drove the still soggy, salvaged wreck to the garage on the following Monday morning, and after much discussion - and a very reasonable offer as I recall, decided to pay for having it dried out from my own pocket, rather than face a longer term increase in premiums for an insurance claim.

At least it had all happened out in the open countryside - and the muck on the upholstery was only good, honest, Suffolk soil?!

Pete.
 

Genghis

Western Thunderer
A twist in the tale: got a call from the garage yesterday to say ignore the mails that it had been written off. Apparently it has been in the air on a ramp in the workshop above all of the water! Now they need to work out how to repair the ramp so they can get it down.................

I hope their mechanical skills are better than their communications.

Next decision: cancel the new order or not??????
 

simond

Western Thunderer
mmm. I’d be suspicious, and cynical. I’d definitely speak to your own insurer, and ask them to send an independent assessor, or get one yourself. Might be covered under your legal insurance, perhaps.

It’s one of those situations that the customer has the most to lose, and the least power. Good luck.
 

Osgood

Western Thunderer
I think I'd be down there pretty smartish (like today) for an initial inspection myself given the suspect comms.
No fobbing off with no access due to H&S etc.
At least you should be able to ascertain its position on a ramp.
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
Ostensibly good news, Dave, but I rather agree with Simon. I think the AA and probably the RAC will do an independent vehicle check if you cross their hands with silver and whether they find anything or not from the perspective of your confidence in the car it'd probably be money well spent.

Brian
 

Genghis

Western Thunderer
Still up on the ramp: need to get the German supplier's technicians over to work out how to lower both sides of the ramp simultaneously...........

It would be another twist in the tail if they manage to park it on its roof...................

The reason for it being in the workshop is sound: as the car cannot be locked it had to be kept in secure storage overnight. When the waters encroached they sensibly raised the cars that were inside. Now they just need to work out how to get them down safely.
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
This is not good news, Dave! I can see the garage's dilemma, though. After all, Germany is on another planet entirely so it'll understandably take weeks for someone to get to them.

Brian
 

simond

Western Thunderer
It's good news if the car was genuinely up on the ramps when the flood arrived. And there's me being all suspicious, cynical and nasty-minded...

fingers crossed!
Simon
 
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