Apparently the approved method of killing an EV fire is to dump it in a tank of water.
I think that the IP rating of an undamaged car is sufficient to protect the battery pack from the effects of waterlogging.
Hairy Bikers and Other Petrol Heads
- Thread starter Eastsidepilot
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I think that the IP rating of an undamaged car is sufficient to protect the battery pack from the effects of waterlogging.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
We had a lot of flooding here in Suffolk recently with abandoned cars left where they had attempted to hydraulically lock up and damage their engines and succeeded ! 
There were also local reports of two electric cars failing but I don't know if this is true or not.
I managed to get around in the Jeep quite comfortably, the deepest obstacle being two foot deep at one point which it can take easily but it can still make you feel slightly un-easy when it goes on over a couple of hundred yards
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As for insurance claims if you intentionally drive into flood water are you not ultimately responsible for the damage to your own motor or does comprehensive insurance cover that ?
There were also local reports of two electric cars failing but I don't know if this is true or not.I managed to get around in the Jeep quite comfortably, the deepest obstacle being two foot deep at one point which it can take easily but it can still make you feel slightly un-easy when it goes on over a couple of hundred yards
.As for insurance claims if you intentionally drive into flood water are you not ultimately responsible for the damage to your own motor or does comprehensive insurance cover that ?
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
David - I was going to put a "Like" against your initial post but that's totally inappropriate. Let's just say that we share your pain, and there but for the grace of God go many of us, I suspect.
Brian
Brian
simond
Western Thunderer
There was a similar photo of new Land Rovers, one of which had an arrow pointing to it, on another forum. The poor guy had paid a deposit on it Saturday morning, and was due to collect it tomorrow. May have been the same dealership.
I do wonder why people build on floodplains.
Do you & Trisha have a spare car? Would be more that a bit irritating if not.
I think this area had been prone to minor flooding in the past. However, flood defence works in Matlock were completed recently. I suspect that this resulted in increased volumes of water downstream and moving the problem rather than resolving it. Resolution would probably require a return to proper river management and dredging.
We also have a Honda e which is a wonderful little car for short journeys but unsuited to long trips as its range is limited and useless as a carrier of Gladiator stock. The F-Pace can swallow all we need to take to a show. I've ordered another one on the assumption that my current one will be lost.
Our younger son is shortly to take delivery of an XF. Fortunately that hadn't yet been delivered to Derby and is being diverted as it was supposed to be collected last week. He was going to trade in his Up! but I think I'll ask if I can take it until the replacement arrives. It is a pain not knowing the status of the current car: if it is repaired then I won't need the Up!. However, I am sure that I will not trust any vehicle that has spent a couple of weeks sitting in polluted floodwater, or even if I'd want to sit in it again. Hence ordering the replacement.
David
alastairq
Western Thunderer
Not much sign of 'flooding' where I live [East Yarkshire, up on the Wolds]... Merely the occasional lake-size puddle.
Back when-I-worked [I am a not-work now...One should not be labelled 'retirees' or OAPs' , or even, 'retired' any more. I left the Civil Service as an Uncivil Servant, no desk, no office, shared computer, plenty of outdoors work]...I taught military personnel the initial fundamentals of driving 'off-road'....[amongst other weird driving skills]...Including how to 'deal with large water crossings, etc.
That definitely did not involve huge bow waves, dramatic [for facebook?] splashes, and high speeds [faster than a swimmer's speed is high for water]..
During past flooding events [lower down than where I am living at present] I recall having to use my '87 [600 quid, not 60 000 quid!!]...Volvo 740 to rescue my daughter from the clutches of her grandma in Beverley..access to which was entirely cut off due to flooded roads. Using sensible speeds, sensible gears, sensible positioning, etc I had no difficulties getting to & from...twice, as it happened. Biggest issue was the abandonment of apparently eminently more suitable vehicles all over the place, especially where I wanted to be.
Biggest danger was what lurked underneath the surface of the watter.....As it happened, I forwent the primary advice of conducting a foot recce before driving through. Luckily I didn't come across any displaced manhole covers, etc.
The delight on dearest daughter's face when I picked her up made it all worthwhile.
One thing I took away from any flooding episodes [aside from wet feet] was to avoid buying anything from PSA....Indeed, anything that might have what resembles a computer controlling things.
I am still somewhat reluctant today!
Back when-I-worked [I am a not-work now...One should not be labelled 'retirees' or OAPs' , or even, 'retired' any more. I left the Civil Service as an Uncivil Servant, no desk, no office, shared computer, plenty of outdoors work]...I taught military personnel the initial fundamentals of driving 'off-road'....[amongst other weird driving skills]...Including how to 'deal with large water crossings, etc.
That definitely did not involve huge bow waves, dramatic [for facebook?] splashes, and high speeds [faster than a swimmer's speed is high for water]..
During past flooding events [lower down than where I am living at present] I recall having to use my '87 [600 quid, not 60 000 quid!!]...Volvo 740 to rescue my daughter from the clutches of her grandma in Beverley..access to which was entirely cut off due to flooded roads. Using sensible speeds, sensible gears, sensible positioning, etc I had no difficulties getting to & from...twice, as it happened. Biggest issue was the abandonment of apparently eminently more suitable vehicles all over the place, especially where I wanted to be.
Biggest danger was what lurked underneath the surface of the watter.....As it happened, I forwent the primary advice of conducting a foot recce before driving through. Luckily I didn't come across any displaced manhole covers, etc.
The delight on dearest daughter's face when I picked her up made it all worthwhile.
One thing I took away from any flooding episodes [aside from wet feet] was to avoid buying anything from PSA....Indeed, anything that might have what resembles a computer controlling things.
I am still somewhat reluctant today!
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
With all this talk of water the petrol head in me has found the boat I've always wanted.....if I can get it started ....Robin ! where you going ?
Col.
....Robin ! where you going ?Col.
adrian
Flying Squad
Pah! a mere toy - I see your 1370hp gas turbine and raise it with a 4500lb/f turbine powered boat. That's a quick boat and gloriously elegant when on plane.
It was great to see it in the flesh on our recent holiday to Northumberland.
Dangerous Davies
Western Thunderer
Just as well!
simond
Western Thunderer
I can’t “like” that, I’m sure I’d be most unhappy if it happened to my Disco, or one of my motorbikes.Just had confirmation it's a write-off
Hopefully it won’t affect your insurance costs.
New car time. What will you get?
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Bad news indeed, David. Or perhaps good as, like you, I'd be most uncomfortable keeping a car which had been underwater.
Brian
Brian
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Insurance is a bit tricky. As I had not had a car for a long time I was building up my no claims from zero and had just entered year three - literally the day it all went pear shaped. My broker is saying that it should all be covered by the garage's insurance but the garage is pushing people to claim on their own insurance. It was also day one of the new warranty, secure tracker, data connection and map updates which together cost about £1200! So I am hoping to claim that too. The bright spot is that I had also taken out GAP insurance which will I think pay the deposit on the new one.
The F-Pace was an absolute delight to drive, quiet and comfortable, so I have ordered another one. A plug in hybrid this time. 100BHP more than the old one and a 5s 0-60mph time, which for 2.2 tonnes is not bad. The old one had also been very reliable, only suffering a small problem that developed whilst in for its MOT. It didn't want to lock, which Jag put down to a software upgrade that required newer hardware. I read just today that JLR are recalling vehicles to improve the security as too many are getting stolen. I think the work that would have been done on mine relates to that.
Dave
I am taking it as good news. I would not have wanted to keep the old one and being written off will put me in a better position financially than if I had been part exchanging a car.
Dave
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
I think you've got the best result possible given the situation Dave, I'd of thought that the company's insurance would talk to all the car owners insurance co's. and sort it out between them ?
Col.
Col.
Osgood
Western Thunderer
I called my auto electrician friend last week - unsurprisingly he's is pretty busy at the moment so I'll have to sort my own tractor earth issue out
Earlier in the year he went out to a very nice looking 3 year old car that someone had just bought which was showing a fault.
When he hooked up the diagnostics it came up with not a fault but a hundred faults
Removal of door pillar trim to get to wiring harness revealed quite a bit of vegetation and a water mark 10" up on the inside.
On the plus side it had been very well valeted.
Buyer beware I guess.
Earlier in the year he went out to a very nice looking 3 year old car that someone had just bought which was showing a fault.
When he hooked up the diagnostics it came up with not a fault but a hundred faults
Removal of door pillar trim to get to wiring harness revealed quite a bit of vegetation and a water mark 10" up on the inside.
On the plus side it had been very well valeted.
Buyer beware I guess.