G.W.R. BLT: Almost there.

jonte

Western Thunderer
GWR BLT



Intended as a ‘typical’ former Great Western branch much in decline towards the end of the fifties, and which I like to believe is set ‘atypically’ around the rural locations of Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire or even rural Bucks, this is more of an exercise in resurrecting my enthusiasm for the hobby than serious modelling.



As I don’t seem able to concentrate on a single subject long enough before ‘things’ start to go stale and enthusiasm wanes, I’ve decided to keep the whole ensemble simple, from concept to conclusion. This way, I hope to speed up the process, thereby keeping the aforementioned hinderances at bay. Well, that’s the idea anyway.



There’s no back story (sorry) but influences have been the Fairford Branch, with representations of its infrastructure in evidence, together with the former Cirencester Town terminus, whose track plan has been selected for both its simplicity and operational potential for a minimum space layout. Not in its entirety, of course, as to model the prototype in full would require far more space than this ‘shelf’ would allow, thus the approach to the single platform affair will commence at the point adjacent to the goods shed in the attached photo (3rd photo down):




Here’s my humble attempt at a track plan:

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This to give you an idea of how the small radius points allow me to squeeze a quart into the proverbial pint pot:70841408-5104-4A5E-9622-B4086ACE4939.jpegD9DC62D3-9056-4893-B2F6-061D17AE5756.jpeg

I’m sticking as rigidly as possible to the drawing; ad libbing tends to lead me off track. That said, I’m looking to extend the dock somewhat as I’m expecting quite a lot of it (cattle dock, transfer of race horses and end loading dock).
Just a final word on the track plan: I’ve ensured the head shunt at the terminus end of the loop is long enough for a Dean Goods (pictured) or Collett 22X:

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Dimensions

4’6” x 16” scenic, consisting of a self contained (the controls will be integral, to avoid an ancillary control panel or side switches that could get damaged when carting around) main board of 5’ x 16” with a 3’6” fiddleyard attached. The fiddleyard will use cassettes of aluminium section attached to 3x sections of 4mm ply to fend off warping. This is borrowed from ‘Monks’:

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Baseboard:



Trackwork

Peco Streamline wooden sleepered track, utilising small radius electrofrog points operated by Twistlock point motors and centre-off switches.

I’ve decided not to model the catch points, if that’s the correct terminology.


Signalling

As per the prototype, this will feature the single GWR signal post and ground signal, although the lattice type construct of the original will be substituted for the more typical wooden post variety which should provide an opportunity to use up an old Ratio model, with some added accessories accumulated to improve the look. It’s intended that this should be operational utilising the Heathcote Electronics module for semaphore signalling. I may yet also have the ground signal functioning if I can find my (part-built) old GWR variety based on that which appears in Stephen Williams’ book on GWR Branch Line modelling (Part 1?). If not, I’ll use a non working version from the Ratio kit, of which I have several.



Buildings

With the amount of trackwork in such a small space, it won’t leave room for much of the built environment beyond the railway fence, thus buildings will consist in the main of a station building, signal box, goods shed and ancillary odds and sods. The station building will be the Ratio version, adapted to look a little more like Andoversford (I like the functional look), and the signal box scratchbuilt like the goods shed , utilising bits from the scrap box. The line will enter/leave via a hole in the right hand side of the layout, disguised as that of Fairford et al, built in half relief from embossed sheets.



Backscene

I’d like to create a simple watercolour consisting of a summer sky and a distant line of trees (purporting to represent the line of distant elm trees on the Fairford branch), so as not to distract the eye too much from the model. This may have to be attempted on lining paper which isn’t ideal as I want to use washes to create the effect; hoping and trusting I can manage to seamlessly adjoin several sheets of watercolour paper of sufficient length. Watch this space.



Lighting (eventually):

LED strips of several types powered via a 12V source, attached to either a wooden tray to sit atop the arch and backscene, or transverse sections of timber flush with the wooden beam of the proscenium arch, attached to the backscene, but only when it’s permanently affixed.

I’ll leave you for now with the following collection of bits and pieces as described in the text, and also a long shot of the baseboard sporting its new WR colours:

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Now to make a start on laying the track (this time I’ve made allowances for the siting of frog wires and point motors when locating the cross bearers below baseboard).

Cheers for now.


jonte

Edit to include reference to terminus photo.
 

Phil O

Western Thunderer
Hi Jonte,

Sorry to have a small criticism of your track plan, the starting signal for the platform road, ideally should be about where your goods shed is, failing that on the same spot as your ground signal.
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Hi Jonte,

Sorry to have a small criticism of your track plan, the starting signal for the platform road, ideally should be about where your goods shed is, failing that on the same spot as your ground signal.
Hi Phil.

No probs and thanks for dropping by. I’ve no doubt you’re right, Phil, but I’ve just popped it in where the prototype was in the third photo down of the attached:


Admittedly, it should be of lattice construction, but as this isn’t a serious attempt at replicating the GWR at Cirencester, I’m opting for the bog standard wooden post variety. @Stephen Freeman does a very nice cast representation of this type of post, but I’m just going to do a ‘mutton dressed as lamb’ on a long forgotten and broken Ratio variety found at the bottom of the scrap box.

Hope that makes sense, Phil, but thank you anyway :thumbs:

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Don't forget the trap point!
Hi Richard.

To be pedantic, there should be two (according to the records of the former Cirencester Town track plan from where I’ve unceremoniously nicked it :p).

As I’ve just mentioned to Phil in my last, this isn’t a serious attempt at a layout, just an exercise in getting me out of the doldrums in terms of layout completion, so I’ve omitted them :(

The Peco ones are reliable but look nothing like the real thing. The alternative was to solder up a couple from some PCB and spare rail, however, I’d have been looking to operate them via Cobalts (Tortoise are the best IMHO, but are like hens teeth), but I rather suspected that I’d have needed a deeper frame to accommodate, and I just wanted to keep everything as simple as possible, Richard.

Thank you anyway for putting me right on that score, as I suspected I wasn’t using the correct terminology when I labelled them ‘catch points’ in my opening post :oops:

Cheers for now,

jonte
 

Stephen Freeman

Western Thunderer
Hi Phil.

No probs and thanks for dropping by. I’ve no doubt you’re right, Phil, but I’ve just popped it in where the prototype was in the third photo down of the attached:


Admittedly, it should be of lattice construction, but as this isn’t a serious attempt at replicating the GWR at Cirencester, I’m opting for the bog standard wooden post variety. @Stephen Freeman does a very nice cast representation of this type of post, but I’m just going to do a ‘mutton dressed as lamb’ on a long forgotten and broken Ratio variety found at the bottom of the scrap box.

Hope that makes sense, Phil, but thank you anyway :thumbs:

jonte
Etched Brass actually.
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Having looked at my sketch again, I think I might opt for @Phil O ’s earlier suggestion re correct placing of the ‘starter’ and ‘ground’ signals.

It would certainly fit more with the examples in Mr. Williams’ books on the GWR.

Talking of which, I found a photo or two of my attempt at a ground signal, a photo of which appeared in the first volume as alluded to earlier:

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It’s some time since I last saw it, but it did work, in a fashion; would be good to see it finished despite it being a little hamfisted.

And of course, if I can remember where I put it.

jonte
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Despite my sincerest assurances to a good friend, not to get bogged diwn or sidetracked with detail and to get something running as soon as possible, I have to admit that I’ve reneged :oops:

Whilst well intended to start sticking droppers to points and measuring to size sections of plain track, I was shocked to discover that I’d been a bit optimistic about the amount of wire left over from Monks. Instead of warming up the iron, I found myself switching on the iPad to start scouting the ‘net for suitably priced materials (including making initial enquiries about a reasonably priced CDU), to get the project back on track.

Ordering over, curiosity got the better of me; armed with a clutch of left over styrene section and the odd sheet or two of plasticard, I headed indoors and opened up the clear packet containing the Ratio station building.

With a mind to Andoversford station building, an hour or more was soon lost fiddling with the beautifully moulded and detailed parts of the kit, trying to arrange them into something that might look the part when mixed and matched with the aforementioned bits and bobs. Despite having procured the kit for an extremely reasonable price, it just looked too good to carve up as I’m prone to doing, so I opted for the path of least resistance and decided to build the kit mostly as intended.

Still determined to kit bash, I’ve started sticking bits together, so here’s where I reached before retiring to watch The Foxes play Forest:

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Plenty of filling ahead and more than a little detailing.

Apologies, Roger, but I did try ;)

Up The Foxes!

jonte
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Having looked at my sketch again, I think I might opt for @Phil O ’s earlier suggestion re correct placing of the ‘starter’ and ‘ground’ signals.

As @Phil O has said 'there is a prototype for everything'. I suspect the home starter was placed where it was for sighting due to insufficient clearance between the 'main line' and the goods shed. I'd leave it in your original position.

It's an interesting little terminus and having looked at the photos on the Disused Stations website and the OS maps I like the idea of the rear of the Independent Chapel forming part of the backscene between the 'Gothic' station building and the wooden goods shed.

I also see you've started the station and it would be nice to make it appear gothic as a token to Cirencester Town.

Looking forward to seeing how your plan develops.

From an industrial archaeological aspect Cirencester Town station building may well be one of Brunel's lesser known station buildings which has somehow survived the ravages of post-war urban planning and BR rationalisations to become grade II listed in 1971.
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
As @Phil O has said 'there is a prototype for everything'. I suspect the home starter was placed where it was for sighting due to insufficient clearance between the 'main line' and the goods shed. I'd leave it in your original position.

It's an interesting little terminus and having looked at the photos on the Disused Stations website and the OS maps I like the idea of the rear of the Independent Chapel forming part of the backscene between the 'Gothic' station building and the wooden goods shed.

I also see you've started the station and it would be nice to make it appear gothic as a token to Cirencester Town.

Looking forward to seeing how your plan develops.

From an industrial archaeological aspect Cirencester Town station building may well be one of Brunel's lesser known station buildings which has somehow survived the ravages of post-war urban planning and BR rationalisations to become grade II listed in 1971.
Thanks, Dave.

Funnily enough, initial thoughts included ‘adopting’ the station building as well as the track plan. It’s indeed very modellable.

To that end and to give me a head start on the ‘Gothic’ characteristics, I saw the Ratio kit as a good starting point for cannibalising the windows and doors for their features and attaching them to a plain carcass. I also began to consider scratchbuilding certain larger features using dual ply openings with shaped plaster infills.

Then I remembered the purpose of the exercise……I’d just be heading for a modelling cul-de-sac once more with plenty of detail to get bogged down with, and yet another failure looming large :(

I also think a single storey affair is more commensurate with the relatively low backscene than the taller Cirencester subject, so all in all, it was probably the best option.

Hopefully, the result will be more than a passing nod to the former with its Cotswolds hues and features, albeit a little more ‘functional’.

Thanks for your interest, Dave.

Jon
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Thankfully, the wiring has arrived (DCC control) so a start can at long last be made on laying the track.

I’ve made use of the delay by making a start on the station building (the unbiquitous Ratio kit). As stated previously, I’ve decided to build most of it as intended so’s not to bog myself down, however, a start has been made via the use of some spare styrene section and a couple of thicknesses of plain plasticard to ‘Westernise’ it, using a ‘based-on’ approach of Andoversford:

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Quite an enjoyable exercise in (mainly) cutting triangular shapes, it won’t have been a wasted exercise as it will help gauge the final position of the track.

We’ve no family visiting this weekend, so I’ll try and use the time to finish the little details and get the roof on. Then I’ll give it a splash or two of the Home Bargain primer I picked up for a couple of quid, before putting it aside in favour of the track.

Cheers for now.

jonte
 

John57sharp

Western Thunderer
Looking forward to seeing how this develops.

You may be able to purchase large sheets of watercolour paper from a proper art shop, eg Tapley’s in Bebington should you care to cross the water, or Jackson’s online. Tapley’s i know buy it in sheets and chop it down.

cheers

john
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Looking forward to seeing how this develops.

You may be able to purchase large sheets of watercolour paper from a proper art shop, eg Tapley’s in Bebington should you care to cross the water, or Jackson’s online. Tapley’s i know buy it in sheets and chop it down.

cheers

john
Many thanks for the heads-up, John; most helpful.

That would save an awful lot of messing about. I read that separate sheets can be joined with ‘goo’, but the article was non specific, although a product of that name is advertised. My next stop was Jackson’s in town, but your kind advice has saved me an awful lot of leg work :thumbs:

Thanks again,

Jon
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Nice to see some modification to adapt the station building to make it more individual. Will the outer end walls be stone? I trust some judicious filling will take place to disguise the panel join or a strategic downpipe.

I don't know how far you would go but I'd be carrying the mortar joints around into the door and window frames - which is what I did with this HO Auhagen Schrankposten kit post #633 in my thread. A tedious but a worthwhile improvement in my view.
 

jonte

Western Thunderer
Nice to see some modification to adapt the station building to make it more individual. Will the outer end walls be stone? I trust some judicious filling will take place to disguise the panel join or a strategic downpipe.

I don't know how far you would go but I'd be carrying the mortar joints around into the door and window frames - which is what I did with this HO Auhagen Schrankposten kit post #633 in my thread. A tedious but a worthwhile improvement in my view.

Absolutely, Dave.

Just a tad more detailing and then out with the filler (Btw: those chimneys aren’t attached :))

Then, the build thus far can be primed and painted, masking parts that will be either stone, render or filthy orange tiles as per those of the Fairford branch. The finer details will be sprayed painted and distressed separately before attachment.

To answer your question, the ends will be rendered as per Andoversford, as I like the functional look, as will the chimney stacks. The stone will be a honey coloured affair to suggest it lies elsewhere other than the usual West Country.

I’ll also scratchbuild a canopy typical of the Great Western country station, similar again to Andoversford, hence the provision of a gap below the roof line. Just need a set of suitable brackets to complete.

I’ve decided to use the redundant parts in the kit (in respect of the supplied awning) to build a goods shed of sorts, as I doubt there’s enough room to accommodate a tropical stone structure.

I follow your Continental thread, Dave, and I do admire your work, especially the structures; can’t guarantee it will be to that standard. As long as I complete this one, I’ll be happy, however it turns out ;)

Many thanks once again for your interest and kind words.

Jon

Edit: due to auto-correct :(
 
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