6221 Queen Elizabeth and the crazy task of building her train

simond

Western Thunderer
Well, if it’s one or two, you can often open up a slot with a scalpel, as has been suggested, but if there are lots of them…
 

Richard Gawler

Western Thunderer
Another suggestion - try to work out whether the narrow slots are showing the inside or the outside or the middle of the part with the tab. When you know this, file off the tabs and use the slots as alignment markers.
 

T30rra

Active Member
You could use a file with edge teeth, ground down in thickness to suit the frame material. I have one created to make a slot on a model. Sorry for the blurred images.
View attachment 172626View attachment 172627

Dave.
I've got a new razor saw which has worked well but no modelling has been done for over 2 weeks as I'm back working on the house at the minute. One room left, although I hope to go down the club wednesday
 

Chas Levin

Western Thunderer
Looks excellent! Is that a lamp, to the left of the coal doors? And is that a dedicated cover or hinged lid over it? I don't think I've seen that before, nice detail: was it simply for practical convenience, for use by the crew?
 

T30rra

Active Member
Looks excellent! Is that a lamp, to the left of the coal doors? And is that a dedicated cover or hinged lid over it? I don't think I've seen that before, nice detail: was it simply for practical convenience, for use by the crew?
Yes it is a lamp, was there as a spare on the real thing I believe but stand to be corrected. Not sure of the purpose of the cowl above it though.
 

Dave Holt

Western Thunderer
There were usually two lamp irons, one above the other, for spare lamps on LMS 4000 gallon tenders. As suggested, there was a hinged protective shroud above the upper iron, to protect the lamp(s) from any falling pieces of coal.
Dave.
 

Chas Levin

Western Thunderer
Very interesting, thanks gents. I'm on foreign ground here (mainly an LNER/GNR modeller for UK stock) but always interested in what other companies did. Makes perfect sense of course - goodness knows they'd have been able to use any lamps they could get I should think, in a working steam loco cab!
 

T30rra

Active Member
Slight diversion from the loco. Got my sidelines coronation scot corridor first out the box tonight to tackle the train alarm gear. The alarm castings are from the cavalier coaches range available from DJ Parkins. Well happy with the result. The random hole will be filled later. The brass wire is a single piece and passes tight under the top step. Note to self, fit the steps after!

P.s. how do I change the name of my thread? 20230315_205636.jpg
 

Chas Levin

Western Thunderer
P.s. how do I change the name of my thread?
Aha - even though I'm a bit of a newbie here, I can answer that: when you're the author of the thread, you'll see, at the top right-hand corner of each page, next to the 'Watch'/'Unwatch' button, a little arrow indicating a drop-down menu. That menu contains an item called 'Edit thread' and if you click on that, it opens a box where you can change the thread title... :)
 

T30rra

Active Member
Aha - even though I'm a bit of a newbie here, I can answer that: when you're the author of the thread, you'll see, at the top right-hand corner of each page, next to the 'Watch'/'Unwatch' button, a little arrow indicating a drop-down menu. That menu contains an item called 'Edit thread' and if you click on that, it opens a box where you can change the thread title... :)
Thanks
 

T30rra

Active Member
Don't suppose anyone knows what these overlays/ beading are for? Appear to be part T79 but not identified on the drawings so far. 20230326_131436.jpg
 

OzzyO

Western Thunderer
IIRC they are for the rear of a de-streamlined tender. As the tender sides extended passed the rear of the tender, also the de-streamlined tender kept the ladder rather than the normal rear steps.
To illustrate the point here are two photos showing the rear of a streamlined tender and a de-streamlined tender,
IMG_9511.JPG

Note how the side sheet is still running passed the rear of the tender., the tender has also still got the two fillers from its streamlined days it's not showing very well in this photo but the rear edge of the tender sides had a vertical beading on them.
IMG_9510.JPG


ATB

OzzyO.
 

T30rra

Active Member
IIRC they are for the rear of a de-streamlined tender. As the tender sides extended passed the rear of the tender, also the de-streamlined tender kept the ladder rather than the normal rear steps.
To illustrate the point here are two photos showing the rear of a streamlined tender and a de-streamlined tender,
View attachment 183420

Note how the side sheet is still running passed the rear of the tender., the tender has also still got the two fillers from its streamlined days it's not showing very well in this photo but the rear edge of the tender sides had a vertical beading on them.
View attachment 183419


ATB

OzzyO.
I really appreciate that Ozzy, thanks. Looks like they are rogue parts on my etch for the streamlined version then and hence I can't find them in the instructions. At least it's not a case of I hadn't put them on but should have!
 

T30rra

Active Member
So, after a couple more sessions, various etch overlays, the rear lamp irons and the vac and steam pipes have been added, along with the tank lifting eyes? The overlays have been made much easier thanks to my newly acquired microflame. £5!

Just the buffer housings, ladder, a few white metal castings some etched L shape brackets, plus a bit of pipework to finish the backhead. Then it will be off for a decent scrape, scrub and wash before it enters the paint shop.

20230326_151551.jpg20230326_151607.jpg20230326_152051.jpg
 

T30rra

Active Member
I could do with some help please. No idea how to do these buffers, they show them with a spring and a nut on the back in the instructions but come with a solid cast central rod and solid at the back, weird? 20230419_222223.jpg20230419_222227.jpg
 
Top