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Bob Essex

Western Thunderer
Julia, my experience with these clip-in bogies is that fore-aft play is part of the downside of the basic design with some much worse than others. The only way to eliminate it is to use a different bogie design with a fixed central pivot above. That brings with it challenges of a different nature space wise for clearance in front of the pivot point for the worm placement and housing (often it’s where the cab will be). As said I struggled with these issues for years until I just basically threw the towel in and now use the complete Farish bogies as in my latest effort, the class 21.

Bob
 

-missy-

Western Thunderer
Re. boilers - just found this on file, thought this loaded LNWR wagon image might be of interest.

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Thank you for sharing that photo Tony, that is really interesting.

Im particularly intrigued by the bogies, they look very functional. I guess there is a huge hole in the floor too. I agree with the others about a weirdly lack of chains too.

Julia :)
 

76043

Western Thunderer
I think this photo is a montage of wagon and boiler, the boiler is surely sitting too low in that flat wagon as it would be crashing through the bogie pivots? The lighting of both items isn't quite right.

Don't forget it's an advert, so anything went and still goes. Treating any advert as a set of historical facts about railway operation is surely wrong?
Tony
 

Osgood

Western Thunderer
It is possible that it is a montage, but on balance I'm happy to accept it as an actual photo of a boiler having been loaded and photographed before chaining for the publicity shot, although that raises an interesting question (rabbit hole alert - see below).

The large lettering may have been painted on the boiler, but more likely (typical of the period) it was "written' onto the negative (the small lettering is deffo written on later as whoever did it couldn't be bothered to curve it).

The wagon is thoroughly recorded over 5 pages with G.A.s (to approx. 1/26 scale), diagrams and plenty of photos in LNWR WAGONS Vol.2 by LNWRS, pub. Wild Swan (you'll find in the Titfield bookshop).

Here's a teaser of the LMS wagon diagram showing the nature of the full-length heavy floor (hardwood) with central gap:

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So:
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Who was actually responsible for the chaining of loads like this when loaded in private premises by non-railway staff?
Did railway employees undertake the chaining?
If not I imagine a railway inspector would have to inspect and approve the chaining?
 

40057

Western Thunderer
The large lettering may have been painted on the boiler, but more likely (typical of the period) it was "written' onto the negative (the small lettering is deffo written on later as whoever did it couldn't be bothered to curve it).

I would think it more likely the small lettering on the boiler was presented like that so it was clearly legible. It’s an advert designed to convey information. That’s the primary purpose. At one stage in my life, I did a lot of leaflet and poster design. There are definite ‘rules’ for effective communication. Minimum sizes for lettering. Some typefaces easier to read than others, especially for the visually impaired. But also the behaviour of readers. Pictures are looked at first. Their captions will be the most read words on the page. So put your key messages in the pictures and captions: not a head+shoulders captioned ‘John Smith MP’, but an action photo captioned ‘Hard-working local MP John Smith’.

The boiler advert is quite a good advert in terms of getting its message across.

Martin
 
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