7mm , Blackney, A Glimpse of the Forest

[Alan]

Whilst waiting for the newly attached foliage on the last (I hope) group of trees to dry (photos later) I thought I'd start having a "go" at the suburban coach. The obvious thing to do was to start weathering the underframe. I'm keeping the job of attaching the door hinges until last. Any way a couple of shots before and after. shows up better in real life than on the screen.



before:





after:







the observant will notice I obviously took the photos after I had done only one side.

 

[Alan]

As promised some new trees and hedges

 

[Alan]

Whoops nearly forgot.

Arrived this morning 57xx due to be 8749 from Minerva running in.

 

[Geoff]

Lovely models aren't they Alan, I see you have gone for the riveted tanks as well. I'm still waiting for my etched plates from Narrow Planet, unfortunately the etchers are closed at the moment.

Geoff

 

[Alan]

Apart from ordering some books, "The Pannier Papers2-4" the ones that cover all the57xx from Simon I've been working on the coach, roof repainted muck as you know applied to the underframe and the hinges added, as some flew I no not where I've only done one side after all only one side will be seen. I thing I can ring Darstaed and get some replacement hinges for when I decide to do the other side IF??????????

Not the best photo I've ever taken perhaps a better one tomorrow when the number has been added.

 

[Alan]

a couple photos of he finished suburban BS

 

[jonte]

I’d liked to have boarded a train at Blakeney, Alan. A really pleasant little spot.

I must say that apart from anything else, your weathered trackwork has to be one of the finest examples I’ve seen on any model. Definitely nailed it there.

Jonte

 

[Alan]

You've got me blushing now Jonte.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Apart from ordering some books, "The Pannier Papers2-4" the ones that cover all the57xx from Simon I've been working on the coach, roof repainted muck as you know applied to the underframe and the hinges added, as some flew I no not where I've only done one side after all only one side will be seen. I thing I can ring Darstaed and get some replacement hinges for when I decide to do the other side IF??????????

I'm surprised they don't automatically include extra hinges on the fret/sprue given the size and knowing some are going to vanish into thin air.

Nice finish on the coach .

 

[Alan]

I agree but I do understand they will supply extra hinges. I believe when ordering a coach for a few pounds more they will fit the hinges.

Eventually after some 6 months I've started making my Radley Models Dodge "Kew" flatbed. The basic three parts are stuck together and primed. Now waiting for the top coat and sticking together. If you look closely at the cab you may notice the sidelamps are white not the brass bits. I'm afraid they too followed some of the hinges into ever hungry carpet. So I've made some out of 1/16th Evergreen rod. and 8mm wire.









I can't make my mind for the colour either GWR Green or Coach maroon.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

The Dodge looks interesting.

Personally I'd shy away from traditional 'railway colours' and go for red or blue or a lighter green with black mudguards to provide a stark contrast. It doesn't have to be as fancy as the blue or green one.

It would be nice if it could be lettered for a local Forest of Dean trader.

 

[AJC]

The Dodge looks interesting.

Personally I'd shy away from traditional 'railway colours' and go for red or blue or a lighter green with black mudguards to provide a stark contrast. It doesn't have to be as fancy as the blue or green one.

It would be nice if it could be lettered for a local Forest of Dean trader.

What Dave said. Coal merchants generally weren’t over fancy in their treatment of vehicles so that’s less of a concern, but painting a non-railway vehicle a railway colour is something of a modellerism that’s easily avoidable and makes the overall scene more convincing. There’s some good examples here: Film Stills Old Trucks and Vans

And a nice Dodge tipper here (though Scottish hauliers likes their colour): Dodge Kew 100 parrot nose tipper of C.W.Michie Ltd. Aberdeen

Adam

 

[Peter Cross]

Coal merchants generally weren’t over fancy in their treatment of vehicles so that’s less of a concern

I would disagree, in the sixties our lorry's were well maintained and painted, they were a big investment. When I get to the laptop I'll try and find a picture. We used Bedford's.

 

[simond]

I would disagree, in the sixties our lorry's were well maintained and painted, they were a big investment. When I get to the laptop I'll try and find a picture. We used Bedford's.

Big investment - they still are, you only have to look at owner-operator cab units, they’re often blinged-up, and they’re normally polished, clean, & look well maintained. Particularly the Dutch flower sellers, I’ve noticed, which might say something about the profits in that particular sector!

I guess a coal truck might look like it carried coal, however

Atb
Simon

 

[AJC]

I would disagree, in the sixties our lorry's were well maintained and painted, they were a big investment. When I get to the laptop I'll try and find a picture. We used Bedford's.

I'd like to see the pictures - I'm always after source material for lorry liveries. There were merchants and merchants - Darch in Yeovil now have quite a smart fleet of tankers and a multi-colour livery (mostly) for domestic fuel oil but their domestic coal lorries in the '80s were plain navy blue, generally without lettering. Ford Cargos are what I remember, these replaced Ford Ds which I just about recall and dad tells me that these replaced Thames Traders - all navy blue, and black, very plain signwriting and seldom new from the pics I've seen. A Dodge like that, if bought new would be well looked after and tidy, but the paint treatment might not be fancy, heavily lined out and expensively lettered (that isn't the same as not colourful). Hauliers are a different matter, especially modern owner operators as Simon suggests. The kind of solo operator common in rural Britain where an ex-army lorry replaced the horse, and was in turn replaced by something relatively decent but at the cheaper end of the scale (Bedford or Kew Dodge, some form of BMC, perhaps an FG, later a Ford D or the ubiquitous Bedford TK) seems very common. That said one Southmpton small merchant operated a pre-war Albion into the '70s and '80s prior to preservation - plain green, black wings not too fussy signwriting, flashers *definitely* a reto fit!: Albion - CPT 717 - EJ Sibley




Adam

 

[Alan]

At the moment I have painted it Tamiya Sky Blue X-14. I think I'll change its role from coal lorry to haulier. A light colour does allow some subtle weathering better than a darker colour. Photos later. I'm still not sure and may give it a rub down and spray it ford burgundy. It is supposed to be owned by my mythical photographer Frank Drake who operated the haulage at Wencombe with a Ford burgundy coloured Bedford OW.
By the way where can you get transfers for to make up the lettering?

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

By the way where can you get transfers for to make up the lettering?

Fox Transfers offer a limited range of alphabets - the gold shaded red Cheltenham font will suit the period.

There will be others out there but it's a case of hunting them down.

And of course there's the number plate . This is something I've been researching recently for the vehicles I've been messing about with - finding photos of number plates for the registration year of the vehicle I'm detailing.

At least if it's pre-1963 registered lorry then it will be three number and three letters or vice-versa. The three letters followed by numbers and suffix letter first appeared in 1963.

I look forward to seeing the photos.

 

[Ian_C]

Can't resist 16 tonners and coal loads. You've made my day! Just in passing, here's some info I found on UK coal trade sizes. Chances are most loads delivered to goods yards were for domestic consumption so they' d usually be one of these sizes.

House coal
Cobbles - actual 100mm x 150mm - 4mm scale 1.3mm x 2.0mm
Trebles - actual 50mm x 100mm - 4mm scale 0.7mm x 1.3mm
Doubles - actual 25mm x 50mm - 4mm scale 0.3mm x 0.7mm

Anthracite
Large nuts - actual 50mm x 69mm - 4mm scale 0.7mm x 0.9mm
Small nuts - actual 22mm x 45mm - 4mm scale 0.3mm x 0.6mm
Beans - actual size10mmx x 22mm - 4mm scale 0.1mm x 0.3mm
Grains - actual size 5mmx x 15mm - 4mm scale 0.1mm x 0.2mm

Anything bigger than cobbles is lump coal or plate coal?
Slack - coal dust and small fragments, typically a residue of handling or sieving.
Nutty slack - coal dust with small coal lumps (nuts).

Scuds - name of some coal seams, coal with a lot of iron pyrites in it?

If Mrs Alan has some sieves in the kitchen, you'll find they have other uses!

 

[simond]

Fox Transfers offer a limited range of alphabets - the gold shaded red Cheltenham font will suit the period.

There will be others out there but it's a case of hunting them down.

And of course there's the number plate . This is something I've been researching recently for the vehicles I've been messing about with - finding photos of number plates for the registration year of the vehicle I'm detailing.

At least if it's pre-1963 registered lorry then it will be three number and three letters or vice-versa. The three letters followed by numbers and suffix letter first appeared in 1963.

I look forward to seeing the photos.

number plate thread here

https://www.westernthunder.co.uk/in...ehicle-registration-numbers.8252/#post-194206

Atb
Simon

 

[AJC]

Fox Transfers offer a limited range of alphabets - the gold shaded red Cheltenham font will suit the period.

There will be others out there but it's a case of hunting them down.

And of course there's the number plate . This is something I've been researching recently for the vehicles I've been messing about with - finding photos of number plates for the registration year of the vehicle I'm detailing.

At least if it's pre-1963 registered lorry then it will be three number and three letters or vice-versa. The three letters followed by numbers and suffix letter first appeared in 1963.

I look forward to seeing the photos.

I make plates up using this: Impact Showplates - handmade, customised number plates and showplates : Design A Plate (good for 'proper' pressed plates - a lot of people and companies seem to have signwritteen theirs). You can mock up a plate, save or copy and paste the preview and edit it to size in Word.

Adam