Heritage Open Days: Southampton's Trams

AJC

Western Thunderer
Southampton, like many other places in the country, participates in Heritage Open Days, albeit, in typical Southampton fashion, without really telling anyone about it. A pity because one of the attractions was getting into the Eastern Docks to visit some of the heritage projects based there. The biggest and probably best-known is SS Shieldhall, built - and there's no getting away from this - to shift Glasgow's, um, intestinal byproducts. Southern Water subsequently bought it to do the same job on the south coast and it now enjoys a retirement as a historic vessel. Had I realised earlier that they were sailing this afternoon, I'd have realigned my plans. Never mind, next year. I can recommend a trip round the engine room.

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The other things I particularly wanted to see were two of Southampton's surviving trams. The Southampton Tram Group have a pair under restoration and both are particular to the city being designed in such a way to traverse the Bargate (12th to 15th centuries in date). Number 38 shows the mark 1 attempt at combating this (and this can be seen at Crich in the form of number 45) in which an open top double decker came with back to back seats along the centre line and dropped footways along the sides. Oh, and a couple of boards advising against standing up while traversing the Bargate arch (cos' if the arch doesn't get you, the trolley wire might). Since number 38 currently looks a bit like this, it isn't altogether obvious:

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From the inside of the lower saloon, however, the reason for the small windows at the ends becomes clear.

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The mark 2 attempt looks like this. Love the bulbous roof, which - allied to smaller wheels - enabled the shorter denizens of the then town of Southampton to travel on the top deck in the dry.

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The maximum height must be about 5' 10" - I'm an inch taller than that - and probably a couple less under the hoops. The scumbled paint finish inside is really very, very nice.

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They've got all the bits, including a refurbished truck and having a runnable vehicle is probably a when rather than if. The prospect of actually running is in Southampton, however, is probably remote.

Adam
 
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AJC

Western Thunderer
you could always persuade them to run it here on the Wirral - a very active Tram Group here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-34188125

cheers

Mike

Bit of a trek to Wirral from the south coast! I would reckon that the nearest working tramway (standard gauge) is probably the East Anglian Transport Museum near Lowestoft - obviously, there's Croydon, and the voltage is the same, but I doubt they'd welcome a historic vehicle like this! There has been talk - there always is - of a short, self-contained tram route in Southampton connected with some form of museum development but I would be truly astonished if it ever came to anything. That said, the group have covered, secure accommodation and an achievable project. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to assist except in the form of a donation, gladly given.

Adam
 

geoff_nicholls

Western Thunderer
I don't suppose they could lay a track to the Hythe ferry? A combined tram, ferry and Hythe pier railway trip would surely attract visitors
 
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AJC

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I don't suppose they could lay a track to the Hythe ferry? A combined tram, ferry and Hythe pier railway trip would surely attract visitors

The money would probably be better invested in the maintenance of Hythe Pier! There have been several proposed schemes, I think and the one I can remember - offhand - was connected with a plan for something called 'Aeronautica', a Southampton transport museum (mainly aircraft, but with ships too) but that scheme foundered back in 2012, partly due to a total lack of empathy/support/money from the city council. This rather stuffed the required leverage for funding:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-16633719

http://www.britishtramsonline.co.uk/news/?p=224

Given what the city is capable of doing to its museums, historic buildings and wider historic environment, this was, to be diplomatic, less than surprising.

Adam
 
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