Tempus Fugit - Pete Insole's workbench oddities and other things

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
I opened up WT a little while ago for a quick look and was carried away, as usual, reading yet more wonderful and amusing articles. When I finally arrived at this thread and finding Heather's reply, I leapt for the "like" button! Scrolling down, I found even more, and realised that that I would end up almost blocking the main page!!

I cannot describe how touched I feel, so can only say thank you to all. You are good friends indeed !

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
I now find myself in a three deadline jam; which is about as far as I can reliably count anyway! Each demands the same level of priority, so not really enough time to sit here and post...

Therefore, just a quick shout is all I can manage this morning. I will endeavour to follow up with the rest of the story later...

District Railway, volume 2 has been announced, with an image shown for a quite a while now - so it may be opportune to air it here.

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The thing is, in one of those moments of utter silliness, I solemnly promised to submit - for the first time in 13 years - some pictures for this year's Guild of Railway Artists, Summer exhibition at Kidderminster !!

The problem? All that I have to show, that is eligible anyway, is this, plus the previous, thankfully already framed up, "Vol. 1" !

Only one more frame, but double loads of labelling, ear-plating, catalogue photographing, special packaging, then form filling, fee posting and transport to "Kiddy" to arrange before selection day next Saturday then...??

Gulp !!

Pete.
 

Tim Watson

Western Thunderer
Having read this excellent thread, I’m even tempted to buy volume one on the District Line! The care and research that you put into the pictures is outstanding. It is interesting that you use that colour paper as the background to your paintings: it is broadly the same colour that we use on Copenhagen Fields as a starting point for our buildings.

What is the steam engine you are making?

Tim
 
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Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thank you Tim, and to everyone for your kindness!

I always try to select a background shade that is meant to provide an overall ambience for each individual composition. Light, both natural and artificial, although sometimes to a slightly lesser extent in the latter, reflects off every surface in any environment. It follows therefore that every colour, at all times and in every scenario will be influenced far more profoundly than we are normally aware of!

Herein lies a subject that I find utterly fascinating:

The human brain is an extraordinary organ. Amongst it's many other talents, it has, for most of us anyway, the ability to "filter" the colour effect to some degree. Strangely though, it is not quite as clever as we might assume, and is in fact rather too easily fooled! We had all spent our child and early adulthood busily honing the instrument and gaining what we are now perfectly content to accept is a reasonably full understanding of the environment around us. Indeed, we can even at times become quite upset if that established sense of "order" is challenged by anything or anyone.

I fear the issue of railway liveries will inevitably rumble on, and on for ever and again?!

What I mean by this can be quite simply demonstrated: Take a clean white sheet of paper and hold it up front of you. Well? It is obvious, it is white isn't it! Now move to another part of the room, or better still, if you are not afraid of being observed and considered to be suffering some form of aberration, take it outside. Observe carefully, and what started out perhaps slightly greyish, yellowish, or greenish might change to blueish, or whatever!

However, by far my own favourite example of this principle in extremis is the infamous case of the "Pink Spitfire":

Whenever I have recounted this tale I have met with some incredulity, the odd sideways look and even a pat on the head with the statement: "Never mind old boy, keep taking the tablets..."!

"But it's true" I doth vainly protest.

Several years ago, many members of the aeroplane enthusiast community were aghast when the wealthy, (he had to be) and apparently ill advised owner of a 1944 vintage Photo-Reconnaissance Spitfire, had it painted in an outrageous all over rose-pink! The aviation press went mad, but he, aided by a few others defended his decision by producing genuine, irrefutable evidence:!

"Ah well, yes", said the "experts" back then, and still do whenever the issue is raised; "That camouflage scheme was for flying missions at sunrise or sunset".

It might seem perfectly logical, but hold on, I'm not so sure. Do they know anything at all about old fashioned, black and white photography, let alone the special requirements of vital military intelligence gathering? I don't know much about it myself but:... The sideways and downward pointing cameras in the Spitfire were rigidly fixed in the fuselage, aft of the cockpit, so while the pilot was concentrating on getting himself into a precise position and attitude, all the while risking his life facing the threat of the enemy's full fury, he would not, nor could he be expected to fiddle about with f stops or apertures? Find it, fly over it, press the doodah, go round, do it again at a different angle or just to make sure, then get the ****** hell out of there...?

Guaranteed exposure success at sunrise? Enough light for full and crisp shot when there might be long shadows that could end up hiding a critical bit of evidence? High noon then? Not enough shadow for 3D clarity, and some risk of over exposure. Back to sunset again; and the same former conditions apply. No, no, no! Look at most published aerial photos' and they have almost certainly been taken at an ideal mid morning or mid afternoon! Doubtless, the enemy would have known that too, so may well have been on higher alert!

For me at least, the jury remained out until one slightly overcast, summer day.

Duxford aerodrome and museum is "just down the road" for me, so I decided to pop in. Imagine my delight upon entry, to observe - I could hardly miss it - the said pink Spitfire, sitting pretty on the "Apron", it's cowlings off and attended by fitters and engineers. Camouflaged on the tarmac, surrounded by the lush greenery of the field and tree lined boundary beyond? Hardly!

The airfield is large, so by the time I had reached the 'plane for a closer look, the engine had been recovered and was being run up. I stayed for a while. Shortly, the pilot taxied out, paused for clearance, then applied full power, and with a great roar from the mighty Merlin, the beastie sped down the runway and gracefully lifted into the air, turned in a wide arc and performed a fly-by before departing westward...

My jaw might have been heard to hit the deck?

Remember that I mentioned the overcast? It was a very high, grey, unbroken one, but still surprisingly bright, enough indeed to induce a slight squint after a while. Now you might be forgiven for thinking that it really is impossible to hide a big noisy lump of metal hurtling through the sky? Well, at the very moment that Spitty cleared the horizon, it almost completely disappeared!

True, the odd reflection and shadow was perfectly obvious, but it was the outline that had vanished against the cloud. I realised at that moment that if I had been a determined and even experienced German gunner in charge of a nest of very nasty ordinance, I would have had terrible difficulty working out precisely the speed, distance, direction and altitude of my target! Any hope of getting an accurate deflection shot in was frankly zero?!

Ahah! So there! Summer overcast! Clear blue sunny sky: High speed and altitude flight possible, PR Blue airframe, perfect. Typical summer: Grey and cloudy - but the show must go on, so provided the cover is reasonably high and it is still bright enough; very, very risky low altitude flying necessary. Any means of confusing the enemy, if only briefly is absolutely vital!

But pink for goodness sake, how on earth?

Some very clever "boffins" had worked it out way back in 1939!

Temperate zone: Fairly verdant in summertime, in other words; lots of green everywhere. Frequently hazy or cloudy though. Meanwhile up above, light heading earthwards from the sun meets the cloud layer; and some of it is reflected away. If the cover is thin; quite a lot of it passes right through and reaches us and all that lovely green stuff. Some of course gets absorbed - that is after all the business of all those plants - but still quite a lot gets reflected back up again. Water droplets in the cloud act like mirrors, reflecting the green back down again - and so on!

Now consider the rainbow effect: colour does not exist in one. nor anything else for that matter. It is merely a human and some other animals' response to a specific pattern of reflected radio wavelengths. Those wavelengths can be described as circular, so starting at infra red, will pass through yellow, green, blue, ultra violet and back to red again. Every shade of colour therefore has an exact opposite on the "wheel".

We all know that if we stare at a brightly coloured object for a short while, a residual image of it will remain for a few seconds on our retinas, but oddly will be a different colour! Curiously, the same thing happens with the old chemical photography. The wheel comes back into play. Black is white, red is green, and yellow is blue, and vice versa on a any negative.

We all know by a lifetimes worth of experience that a cloudy sky is grey. But what we actually see in our eyes is all that reflected pale green. But the brain says "Oh no, don't be stupid, of course it isn't green!"

Stare for a while - just like that German gunner, anxiously scanning the sky for a target, and we get a residual effect on the retina. The opposite of pale green is...? Yep, you guessed it; PINK !! Brain says again "What the heck? You really must be stupid, there's no way that the sky is pink!"

If somebody shoves something that actually does appear to be genuinely pink in the "grey" sky, the gunner, and indeed all the rest of us, will not be able to tell the difference, however hard we try!

Trouble is, buffoons find boffins a bit troubling! The silly old duffers at the Air Ministry could only manage to accept the first half of the theory; which is why the initial RAF camouflage colour adopted for aircraft undersides not long after commencement of hostilities was a pale green shade; otherwise known as "Sky"! When they considered that their half hadn't worked as well as hoped for, after all, too many were still being shot down, buffoons then declared, "We told you it wouldn't work!" and plumped for plain light grey. The boys still got shot down though.

"I say, come on chaps, pink is a bit too, er, well, you know, going too far really!"

Pete.
 
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adrian

Flying Squad
Herein lies a subject that I find utterly fascinating:
Likewise - I find these things facinating.
Stare for a while - just like that German gunner, anxiously scanning the sky for a target, and we get a residual effect on the retina. The opposite of pale green is...? Yep, you guessed it; PINK !! Brain says again "What the heck? You really must be stupid, there's no way that the sky is pink!"
I think the effect you are referring to is known as Troxler's fading - I posted this fairly recently. If you follow the link it shows a ring of lilac dots that fade out to grey - however if you stare at the cross in the centre you will perceive where the lilac dot fades to grey that it actually appears to be replaced by a green dot - even though it isn't.
So in a similar vein with colours - stare without blinking at the centre of this image. Some of the colours will fade to nothing.
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To me the purples and blues fade out quickly leaving just the yellows. So I can fully believe if you are staring at the sky for a pink Spitfire then it will disappear before your very eyes.
 

SimonT

Western Thunderer
One day back in the early ninties a Hercules arrived at Lyneham with a brand new light grey all over paint scheme . It was announced that this paint job was our new camouflage scheme; the product of very experienced scientists and that it would hide the aircraft. A few days later I was due to go and play with some fighters while they tried to find us and shoot us down (not for real, obs) while we flew contour masking at 250' feet. With the then current all over grey & green scheme, the aircraft was almost impossible to see while doing this. I was asked to take said chief scientist with me for a trial. It was a bright May day with a Northerly air flow, such air flow is very clean with excellent visibility and we were over a very green Devon in our new Clingon Cloaking Device; what could go wrong? Well, no matter where I hid, the fighters could pick us out, often from twenty plus miles as we all turned in towards each other; they wouldn't even bother to look if we were grey & green. As part of the trial we climbed up to find some clouds and there at least it got a little harder to find us against the cloud. The light grey Hercules was repainted the all over grey & green camulfage.

There was one good result of the trial. The Chief Science Bod realised (well, we did tell him during our flight deck conversations) that the colour that stood out best was black. After a trial this was confirmed and as a result all our training aircraft went from red and white to black.

Desert Pink was applied in Gulf War I as part of an exercise to paint everything pink. It soon revealed that it is difficult to see against the grey sand filled skies of the desert, confirming Pete's thoughts about the pink Spitfire. Such skies varied between a puple grey and a green grey. The two Tristar tankers that adopted the desert pink were christened Pinky and Perky, with suitable piggy nose art!

Simon
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thank you both for those super replies!

Is it any wonder that the issue of railway liveries will continue to be such an emotive subject?

What chance do any of us have if we add memory, with all it's failings, to the question, when we clearly have difficulty correctly identifying a shade that is right in front of our eyes?!!

I have a part started picture that has been on hold for quite a while now. The technical details are more or less sorted and ready to go, but it is the colour of the original seat fabric that threatens to spoil the whole image that has bothered me into inaction!

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Pete.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Looks like the interior of a AM6 or 306 for you youngsters ;)

I only bagged one GE AM6 ride but had a few on the Woodhead 506's from Piccadilly to Guide Bridge.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Indeed Mick, the same - and same again!

Not only rode them regularly when they were all still painted green, I commuted on them when blue, then after they were withdrawn, chased off to Manchester several times to record their sisters on tape.

Spent a happy afternoon and evening at a very, very busy Guide Bridge. Then recently I discovered some pictures on-line of the location - it has all gone !!! Only rough scrubland now. It wasn't just the miners that lost their jobs.

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Oh, sigh..! Thank you Dave for those pics.

I have had a look, and found two dates listed on tape boxes: Manchester Piccadilly, Hadfield and Glossop, 14th September 1982, and Guide Bridge, 24th November 1983. Trip recordings done on both occasions! I am not sure on what date I was at Godley - but I was there!

OK, so running old electrics is just not possible on the modern railway now, but it is such a shame (almost a criminal act?) that the sole surviving, "preserved" 506 ended up being scrapped.

Pete.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Pete, the whole MSW is a shocking wasteland, my biggest regret was not going to Guide Bridge or Reddish more, or even more points further afield, back then Crewe held all the aces and we'd (brother and I) spend days there. I have missed many opportunities in life, not visiting the MSW more is probably the biggest.

I was in Sheffield recently and walked along near the Don, up on the hillside the MSW line to Pennistone was easily visible, as were all the bridges over roads. It didn't take much to imagine EM1's/76's grinding up the grade on unfitted freights or even EM2's/77's gliding down grade into Victoria.

By the time I was commuting on the GE twixt Manor Park and Maryland we had 315s, modern, clean and efficient, until it mizzled, you know that east London mizzle, especially during rush hour. Poor old 315's jammed door to door with commuters slipping to a stand trying to get up the grade from Maryland to Forest Gate. We'd get going eventually but not without many jolts and surging as the motors slipped, tripped and banged out.
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
have had a look, and found two dates listed on tape boxes: Manchester Piccadilly, Hadfield and Glossop, 14th September 1982, and Guide Bridge, 24th November 1983. Trip recordings done on both occasions! I am not sure on what date I was at Godley - but I was there!

Well, well, well. We may has crossed paths and not even known it.

OK, so running old electrics is just not possible on the modern railway now, but it is such a shame (almost a criminal act?) that the sole surviving, "preserved" 506 ended up being scrapped.

Certainly not overhead electrics - the closest would be E5000 if it used it's pantograph. However, the Met Bo-Bo 'Sarah Siddons' and the preserved 1938 tube stock get out on LT metals, hopefully followed by the Q38 stock the LT museum are restoring. https://www.ltmuseumfriends.co.uk/projects/friends/project/33/q-stock

On the main line I don't know whether the SR 2-Bil and SR designed 4-EPB (NRM owned I think) still operate on SR metals. I photographed both at Cannon St in the 1980s.

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A 5-Bel 'Brighton Belle' unit is currently being restored for main line running. Bringing back THE BRIGHTON BELLE | Iconic 1930s all-electric Pullman Train.

Of course there's the Isle of Wight with it's 1938 tube stock.... and there's been talk of this being replaced by the old District Line D stock. https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/16976178.new-trains-for-island-line/
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Sorry Mick, I was overplaying the age card a bit?!

Funny thing is, when we got the spanking new 315's, I remember thinking: "These dreadful plastic things couldn't possibly last as long as the good old rattlers" Hah! How wrong could I have been?!

Thanks again Dave, but I'm afraid that Southern electrics will NEVER run again! The 5-BEL is getting all new, state of the art stuff underneath, and it is only the "high status", wining and dining potential of that train that might provide some sort of return for the enormous outlay.

A couple of rusty and wrecked Mersey electrics have only barely survived, but even if their eventual restoration could go beyond the purely cosmetic, the major issue of modern traction supply and signalling compatibility applies there too. The remaining Isle of Wight units are just about hanging on a wing and a prayer by being splendidly isolated from any other part of the network!

I'm sorry that I'm being such a miserable beggar...!

Too few seem to appreciate just how fortunate we are to have "Sarah" and the '38' that can still come out for very rare outings - and of course the magnificent "Q" to look forward to?

For how much longer can we expect even that privilege to be extended though...?

Pete.
 

Lyndhurstman

Western Thunderer
Heather referred a while ago in one of her posts to a "Black dog" that visits, and I fully empathise. Mine is more like a Grizzly bear though! He is still around at the moment, but isn't crashing about and growling quite so loudly, so I'm taking the opportunity to try and get a little bit of work done ?!

To all my friends and fellow WT'ers, please forgive me for not replying to this or any other postings lately.

Pete.
Peace, Pete.
At times like this, I just sit and stare. I’m not good for much else. I try to find a few minutes to be meditative, and focus only on my breathing. And being in nature is good. Stroking a cat works, too. For me - not so much my partner, who is allergic to them!

In all is forms, it’s a horrible, debilitating, thing. You - or anyone - suffering from depression is more than welcome to PM me. Time zones don’t matter.

Peace

Jan
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thank you so much for your reply Jan.

Yes, it is utterly horrible, but I know that I just have to get on with it. Trouble is, so do my friends and loved ones!

I hope Oz7mm doesn't mind if I recall that on one occasion he surprised me with the question:

"Pete, are you always impossible to live with?"

It appeared to be presented in jest, but perhaps, worryingly, it may have carried just a hint of genuine frustration?!

We cannot hope that everyone else will understand the otherwise hidden disability; after all, few of us carry white sticks, or have to rely on any other obvious mechanical aids! Most of the time we just look and sound reasonably "normal"!

What this thread has revealed is that there are clearly so many of us who have felt able to admit being fellow sufferers. It is for me a great comfort to be able to share, and thus hope that you and anyone else might feel likewise?

Best wishes to all,

Pete.
 

Lyndhurstman

Western Thunderer
What this thread has revealed is that there are clearly so many of us who have felt able to admit being fellow sufferers. It is for me a great comfort to be able to share, and thus hope that you and anyone else might feel likewise?

Pete.

Hello Pete,
Yes... it’s very interesting - and encouraging - that so many of us feel able to open up on here. It indicates that WT is a place of comfort and safety - as well as a repository of some fine, fine, modelling!

I wonder - without presumption or being too generalist - if we are prone to these bouts because we are more introverted than most. Like I say, I don’t presume, but I know I am.

Anyway, thread hijack over. Here’s to better times. And the weekend!

Cheers

Jan
 
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