7mm Syphon G Diag O.22

[Ian G]

I picked up the Kirk syphon G a few years ago along with some wayho 'American' bogies and a set of CPL corridor connections.
Information in the GW Syphon book shows 6 of these to have 9'' american bogies instead of the normal 7'' bogies, as with most of Kirk kits the plastic detail is basic, so other items picked up in recent years will be attached in due course, maily brass including the angle truss.



The syphon has been sat in my workshop for a few years in this state, the photo does not show up the dusty dirty roof.



I started constructing the corridor connections the other day, the instructions are not up to much as I found out when one set of fold lines need to be folded on the out side not the inside.
It recomends pins for the build as I could only find 20mm brass lace pins I have used 0.5 mm nickle silver rod with washers soldered at each end. areas that needed to move were chemically blackened before i got the soldering iron out, and fag paper was used between the washers and the moving parts.

Ian G
Both ends of the siphon will the covers on.

 

[ZiderHead]

nice

Always wondered why they had corridor connections since they were for transporting milk churns, seems rather strange to me *scratches head*

 

[Ian G]

After a weekend away I have managed to build the truss out of stock brass angle and scrap.

Ian G


Layout lines on my soldering board, angle pined


Both sides finished


Cross members added and scrap etch base.


Truss primed with glue in surfaces kept clean.

 

[Rob Pulham]

Looks good - as do the CPL corridor connections. Are they company specific or generic?

I keep thinking about picking up a Kirk kit or two to build at the cottage when my stash of wagon kits runs out.

 

[Ian G]

The CPL corridor connections are GWR ones, i picked up some v-hangers and lamp irons from them, looking through the syphon book there are many 'G's that can be modelled with the Kirk kit.

Ian G

 

[Steph Dale]

The CPL corridor connections are GWR ones, i picked up some v-hangers and lamp irons from them, looking through the syphon book there are many 'G's that can be modelled with the Kirk kit.

Ian G

Ian, Rob,

They may be 'GWR' but also include the additional elements to make up the LMS versions that have double scissors. As well you might expect when these are British Standard gangways. The only real issue is with Southern or Eastern carriages where they may need adapter plates to couple on to 'Pullman' gangways (watch this space).

It's also worth noting that CPL do two different types of BS gangway, although for the life of me I can't remember why...

I also can see what you mean about having many build options, but isn't there a concern with vertical vs. horizontal planking in this kit? I have a vague recollection of an issue.

Steph

 

[Heather Kay]

It's also worth noting that CPL do two different types of BS gangway, although for the life of me I can't remember why...

I believe one is the scissor-type, under discussion here, and the other is the suspended type without outside frames.

 

[Ian G]

The gangway kit makes either the scissors or suspended gangways, there is not enough parts in the kit to do both.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

I have started the battery boxes from CPL, there are no instructions as to where all the bits go, so far cut out, foldes and soldered.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

can any one point me towards a decent picture of a GWR battery box please.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

A bit more work on the batery box, having spent many an hour looking at the etches and the information Heather supplied me, their are about another 16 bits of the etch to finish these boxes off, more pics to follow.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

Battery boxes finished and in primer, one thing I should of done with the vac cylinders and brackets once I had soldered them up. a pig to clean again.

Ian G

 

[Dog Star]

After this you are going to be qualified to tackle the Scorpio O/F Siphon... vac brake / air brake / Queen post and truss rod / odd-looking bogies . You will enjoy the research... you will.

 

[Ian G]

Need to finish my G6 after this is in primer, as I am sorting a cam for the chuff with DCC.

Ian G

 

[Steph Dale]

Ian,

I'm really liking this and it's very useful as I've got one in the stack to do. Just pondering etching the odd bits of strapping that are missing...

Steph

 

[Ian G]

I picked up an etch for the strapping from Hobby Holidays at Railex, will put a photo up later.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

I cant find were I have put the strapping but will have a better look this weekend, looking through my Syphon book i may upgrade to a later diagram number, the only change I have to do is roof vents and un-solder the scissors gangway and turn it into a susspended one.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

Strapping found, it appears to be for the 6 wheeled siphons, after studying the siphon book more closely i will keep to the diag O 22 but with round buffers.

Ian G

 

[Steph Dale]

Ian,
That strapping might well be fine for the outside-framed siphon that Ian does so I'll investigate further. I've got one of those too build too!
Steph

 

[Ian G]

I noticed a few mistakes before glueing made up items to the underframe, Vac cylinder/V hangers are handed so took one apart and fixed the problem, Battery boxes, looking at most of the photos I have a lot of the Syphons are fitted with the smaller 3' 6'' battery box, after making the larger ones these went together quicker, I have the srapping at the right length, this helps with the gap between the solebar and the top of the battery box, will add the smaller detail on Friday.

Ian G