4mm Starting out in pre 1971 kit building!
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Been looking at your 16t posts again. Think the rusting is really effective. Been working on weathering some myself recently and your PVA technique is really good for representing large patches of rust in my opinion. It's a technique I might try myself in the future.
Looking forward to more progress!
Matt
Looking forward to more progress!
Matt
AdeMoore
Western Thunderer
Cheers Matt followed the link some lovely stuff on your thread watching now over there.
Yes I was taken with the method I found it while researching the salt method but that is very hit and miss and uncontrollable, unlike this method.
First attempt I’m happy with the results. I should of left it alone earlier now looking back to the prototype photo I had the white stripe bearly exists. Off Paul Bartletts excellent site.
<a href="BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B221316 MCO" title="B221316 MCO"><img src="https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-2/p187775428-3.jpg" width="580" height="432" alt="Paul Bartlett's Photographs: BR 16t Mvineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO &emdash; B221316 MCO" /></a>
He allows sharing by the look as I got the code for the image off his site. Edit no he doesn’t see Daves post below!
Mine
Prototype photo in link.
BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B221316 MCO
Cheers Matt for your kind words.
Ade
Edited as I picked wrong image of my 16 T wrong side! And the embed didn’t work. Then I was informed by Dave of Paul Bartletts copyrights so deleted my screen grab and replaced with his link.
Yes I was taken with the method I found it while researching the salt method but that is very hit and miss and uncontrollable, unlike this method.
First attempt I’m happy with the results. I should of left it alone earlier now looking back to the prototype photo I had the white stripe bearly exists. Off Paul Bartletts excellent site.
<a href="BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B221316 MCO" title="B221316 MCO"><img src="https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-2/p187775428-3.jpg" width="580" height="432" alt="Paul Bartlett's Photographs: BR 16t Mvineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO &emdash; B221316 MCO" /></a>
He allows sharing by the look as I got the code for the image off his site. Edit no he doesn’t see Daves post below!
Mine
Prototype photo in link.
BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B221316 MCO
Cheers Matt for your kind words.
Ade
Edited as I picked wrong image of my 16 T wrong side! And the embed didn’t work. Then I was informed by Dave of Paul Bartletts copyrights so deleted my screen grab and replaced with his link.
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daifly
Western Thunderer
daifly
Western Thunderer
I provided a link rather than embed as Paul says on his front page:
PLEASE DO NOT USE THE EMBED FEATURE FOR YOUR BLOGS, WEBSITES ETC. I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A BREACH OF MY COPYRIGHT. ZENFOLIO REQUIRES THIS TO BE SWITCHED OFF FOR EVERY PHOTOGRAPH AND I CANNOT DO THIS. ADDING LINKS IS FINE.
Dave
PLEASE DO NOT USE THE EMBED FEATURE FOR YOUR BLOGS, WEBSITES ETC. I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A BREACH OF MY COPYRIGHT. ZENFOLIO REQUIRES THIS TO BE SWITCHED OFF FOR EVERY PHOTOGRAPH AND I CANNOT DO THIS. ADDING LINKS IS FINE.
Dave
AdeMoore
Western Thunderer
Still building the 16T! Bit much I know but hey I’m enjoying it!
So the progress pics.
Next up trying to level up the paintwork to the transfers. The same PVA used in the masking earlier. Think it’s going to work more paint needed to finish off yet.
Soldering up coupling hook etches.
Filed up.
Studying Paul Bartlett’s wagon photo’s don’t think the raised area is evident so removed it!
BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B259927. Though I do now see there is a draw bar plate done on Ambis, and a further study of photos show a plate on some wagons as part of the hook casting I imagine. Ummm to far in now to correct I think.
Was going for the notch chain on the hook! Fail it would lift out occasionally.
Model fillered that slot back in and superglued the hooks in.
Needing the instanter chain link but until I order some it will be just 3 links.
Thanks to Adam https://www.westernthunder.co.uk/index.php?members/ajc.202/ for the kind offer of some metal wheels to add to my stock.
Thanks for looking in.
All comments greatfully received
Until next time
Cheers
So the progress pics.
Next up trying to level up the paintwork to the transfers. The same PVA used in the masking earlier. Think it’s going to work more paint needed to finish off yet.
Soldering up coupling hook etches.
Filed up.
Studying Paul Bartlett’s wagon photo’s don’t think the raised area is evident so removed it!
BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B259927. Though I do now see there is a draw bar plate done on Ambis, and a further study of photos show a plate on some wagons as part of the hook casting I imagine. Ummm to far in now to correct I think.
Was going for the notch chain on the hook! Fail it would lift out occasionally.
Model fillered that slot back in and superglued the hooks in.
Needing the instanter chain link but until I order some it will be just 3 links.
Thanks to Adam https://www.westernthunder.co.uk/index.php?members/ajc.202/ for the kind offer of some metal wheels to add to my stock.
Thanks for looking in.
All comments greatfully received
Until next time
Cheers
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Lyndhurstman
Western Thunderer
Nice work. The 16 tonner - for all its mundanity and lack of glamour - is an endless source of fascination and worthy of study. And your research is paying handsome dividends; all of these little found moments being expressed in your modelling add up to something special.
Cheers
Jan
Cheers
Jan
AdeMoore
Western Thunderer
Right home straight now!
Couplings done (for now) the buffers cleaned off as those were wrong painted and left shiny in centres.
Wheels in, the PVA on the sides levelling up the transfers was re sponge painted sparingly avoiding the peeling grey paint and fading the transfers further as per the prototype photo BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B221316 MCO
Still need to paint and weather the hooks the coupling links wheels axleboxes and all the stuff under the solebars.
Coal it up. Then refine the wagon body paint and weathering.
Until next time
Cheers
Couplings done (for now) the buffers cleaned off as those were wrong painted and left shiny in centres.
Wheels in, the PVA on the sides levelling up the transfers was re sponge painted sparingly avoiding the peeling grey paint and fading the transfers further as per the prototype photo BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO | B221316 MCO
Still need to paint and weather the hooks the coupling links wheels axleboxes and all the stuff under the solebars.
Coal it up. Then refine the wagon body paint and weathering.
Until next time
Cheers
AdeMoore
Western Thunderer
Thanks Jan your to kind, just thinking we all had to start somewhere just not many post their beginnings.
What a friendly forum this is.
Cheers
16T done
AdeMoore
Western Thunderer
So the 16T mineral is about done probably over weathered it a bit but I’m quite happy for my first ever go at building one and weathering it. Using the PVA glue peeling paint technique, I think it worked well and at next to no cost when you put it up against something like the Mig range of effects.
The stripe transfer I didn’t quite succeed in disguising but I’m sure at viewing distances no one will be over critical.
Just coaled her up, real coal. Done.
Photo’s.
Poor indoor lighting much prefer daylight.
All comments greatfully received.
Until next time
Cheers
The stripe transfer I didn’t quite succeed in disguising but I’m sure at viewing distances no one will be over critical.
Just coaled her up, real coal. Done.
Photo’s.
Poor indoor lighting much prefer daylight.
All comments greatfully received.
Until next time
Cheers
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AdeMoore
Western Thunderer
Cheers Matt your to kind!
John Baker
Western Thunderer
That looks really effective! Could you describe the technique a little further for novices like myself? Creating rusty effects such as this is something I need to learn for the layout I have in mind.
Thanks!
AdeMoore
Western Thunderer
Hi John thanks, it’s all in here actually page 2 post #34 on.
Cheers for looking in.
michael080
Western Thunderer
Fantastic! And all that in 4mm 
Neither my eyes nor my fingers could do ...
Michael
Neither my eyes nor my fingers could do ...
Michael
John Baker
Western Thunderer
Ah yes.....just had a read. Really effective stuff. Shall get myself an old wagon and have a play
