4mm An EM Workbench: Mineral allsorts
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Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
Make sure to check the sidelights are at the same height. On my example I had to make new ones!
I've always liked tiny commercials. I’m watching progress on these with interest. Perhaps one day I’ll complete my collection of Langley lorries.
Resin Bedford
AJC
Western Thunderer
After half a decade, the FFK is now all but ready for paint:
The detail I'm particularly pleased with are the safety bars on the backboard on the body. These were added using fuse wire, superglued in place, first at the top and then, once the glue had taken, the wire was stretched out and tacked on with more glue at the bottom. Tricky to photograph though.
I'll have to think about a livery for it now. Meanwhile, the Bedford OST tipper now looks a bit like this:
The micro-sign-writing over the windscreens has come out ok (bear in mind the picture is greater than life size), but the cab doors need some lettering, too. Yes, the blue is a bit bright but not implausibly so.
Adam
The detail I'm particularly pleased with are the safety bars on the backboard on the body. These were added using fuse wire, superglued in place, first at the top and then, once the glue had taken, the wire was stretched out and tacked on with more glue at the bottom. Tricky to photograph though.
I'll have to think about a livery for it now. Meanwhile, the Bedford OST tipper now looks a bit like this:
The micro-sign-writing over the windscreens has come out ok (bear in mind the picture is greater than life size), but the cab doors need some lettering, too. Yes, the blue is a bit bright but not implausibly so.
Adam
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
A Big Scammell (United Dairies)
AJC
Western Thunderer
So another project, with one eye on Podimore's proposed and offscene dairy, a Scammell milk tank and tractor combination as used for decades by United Dairies. I've made a start on the tractor unit but until I've primed it, the white resin is impossible to take a decent picture of, so here we have the important bit, the tank. This, like the tractor unit, is from Road Transport Images, item T11 sold as a bitumen tank but readily convertible to something more lactic. Here's the real thing: Scammell MU 's
And here's where I was at before applying a coat of filler primer, so it's now fetching mustard yellow because the resin casting is a little pitted with some difficult airholes (more have appeared under the filler primer) with band and nameboards on the side, scaled to suit the accompanying transfers. I've beefed up the tops of the mudguards with some 10 thou' superglued in place as they weren't as thick as the curves. There's a spare wheel to add underneath, together with a tool(?) box and, of course the wheels proper as well as the ladder. Oh, and lots of orange paint...
More as and when.
Adam
And here's where I was at before applying a coat of filler primer, so it's now fetching mustard yellow because the resin casting is a little pitted with some difficult airholes (more have appeared under the filler primer) with band and nameboards on the side, scaled to suit the accompanying transfers. I've beefed up the tops of the mudguards with some 10 thou' superglued in place as they weren't as thick as the curves. There's a spare wheel to add underneath, together with a tool(?) box and, of course the wheels proper as well as the ladder. Oh, and lots of orange paint...
More as and when.
Adam
A Big Scammell (United Dairies)
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I'm interested to see how you get on with this, Adam.
I've started a milk train in 7mm. So far I have two Slaters 3000 G milk tanks and a Passenger Full Brake completed with another Slaters 2000 G milk tank to complete. However, some time ago I secured what I believe to be the last two road/rail tankers from (I seem to remember) "Blackberry Way" - although that name may be wrong. They are intended as coarse scale but I reckon will be a good basis for a couple of wagons to include in the train, even if I have to buy underframes from Slaters - David White was very helpful when I discussed the project with him. Steph and I went to Didcot a year or two ago and photographed the wagon and trailer there so I reckon I probably have enough info to give it a go.
Here's one of the photos from our safari.
Brian
I've started a milk train in 7mm. So far I have two Slaters 3000 G milk tanks and a Passenger Full Brake completed with another Slaters 2000 G milk tank to complete. However, some time ago I secured what I believe to be the last two road/rail tankers from (I seem to remember) "Blackberry Way" - although that name may be wrong. They are intended as coarse scale but I reckon will be a good basis for a couple of wagons to include in the train, even if I have to buy underframes from Slaters - David White was very helpful when I discussed the project with him. Steph and I went to Didcot a year or two ago and photographed the wagon and trailer there so I reckon I probably have enough info to give it a go.
Here's one of the photos from our safari.
Brian
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Brian,
whilst following up on Mickoo's link to the OPC files for details of the H33 Composite Restaurant coach - later converted to the S&T Inspection saloon, I came across details of Milk tank trailer truck to Diag O37 Nos 2537 - 9 at the top of page 1119. This is followed further down the page by Diag O48 Nos 2839 - 46. Don't know if these are your trucks or not, but might be worth a look.
kind regards
Mike
Sorry for the thread hijack.
AJC
Western Thunderer
Thanks, Brian
No problem, Mike! In addition to the road motor, I have a couple of milk tanks on the go too and some idle thoughts about doing one of these demountable tank/chassis combinations (they went out of use for milk round about the start of my modelled timeframe), so any gen is worth having. The road trailers for these were by Dyson, I think, rather than the chassisless Scammell job I’m building here.
I should really focus on these works in progress first though...
Adam
No problem, Mike! In addition to the road motor, I have a couple of milk tanks on the go too and some idle thoughts about doing one of these demountable tank/chassis combinations (they went out of use for milk round about the start of my modelled timeframe), so any gen is worth having. The road trailers for these were by Dyson, I think, rather than the chassisless Scammell job I’m building here.
I should really focus on these works in progress first though...
Adam
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Mike - Well worth a look before I free the hot stick from its lodging..... With a King Arthur, A3 and GWR 47XX all in a part built state at the moment it may be a while. Many thanks for taking the trouble, though.
Brian
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Brian,
no trouble, I was there anyway. It may be some time before my heat stick gets any action as I am fully out of salts at present and living less that a mile from Arrowe Park hospital does bring much enthusiasm for a speedy return to the workbench.
kind regards
Mike
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
What can I say, Mike? Except that I really value your posts and wish you the very best I can.
Brian
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
AJC
Western Thunderer
Possibly. The examples on Paul Bartlett's pages are from the '40s: GWR & BR Milk tank wagons | W2936 roro Swindon 75-09-13 P Bartlett words (the Didcot example is '47).
The current state of my milk railtank, from Rumney Models etches (it's been like this for a while, but I've got the castings now and it *should* progress, soonish).
Adam
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oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I've dug a bit more. On the Southern at least the association with demountable tanks appears to have started in 1931 and they were used until 1960. The best info I've found so far is an article in Southern Way No 19.
I'll now descend further down the rabbit hole to see if I can find any evidence for the other regions. Those examples from 1974/75 by Paul Bartlett appear to be late survivors. There also appear to be no associated tanker vehicles.
Brian
I'll now descend further down the rabbit hole to see if I can find any evidence for the other regions. Those examples from 1974/75 by Paul Bartlett appear to be late survivors. There also appear to be no associated tanker vehicles.
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I've dredged my collection...... The latest evidence I can find is a photo of a milk train containing demountable Dyson vehicles west of Maidenhead on the Kensington to Whitland Milk Empties. 29th April 1962.
Brian
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Hi Simon.
1931, not 1934. If your cut off date is 1930 you could very reasonably apply rule 1.
B
1931, not 1934. If your cut off date is 1930 you could very reasonably apply rule 1.
B
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
I've come across a LNER road/rail insulated tanker
AJC
Western Thunderer
Nice! And not something I’d seen before. One of the interesting things about that is that the wagon bears no real relationship to LNER milk tanks (which had a shorter wheelbase and heavier springs/journals), so it’s something of a one off. The extra lentgth is clearly down to the paired trailers which are clearly intended for use with Mechanical Horses or similar as they’re a standard Scammell type with the auto-coupling/dolly wheel. I find it difficult to believe that they were used for *both* fish oil *and* milk, however! Probably just the former, since milk tanks weren’t insulated and the certainty of taint would be a bit much even in the ‘50s!
Adam