6221 Queen Elizabeth and the crazy task of building her train

[Rob Pulham]

Ahh yes, now I remember them. They go one at either side set against the rear of the tender and the smaller one goes on top to support the rear of the coal space.

 

[T30rra]

Does the bit at the back go upside down then and sit onto the two side supports?

 

[simond]

If it’s your video, you can upload it to YouTube and post a link on here.

 

[T30rra]

so you can Simon. I think Rob has more or less answered my query but the video is a bit more engaging

 

[OzzyO]

I think that I did it this way, fix the six brackets to the rear face of the tender (T12) and clean up the inside face.
Fix WT1 X2 to the sides(you can use epoxy for this.
Fix WT2 to the bottom rear of the coal hopper, make sure that its flush to the rear edge and not sticking out or T31 will not fit correctly.

ATB

OzzyO.

PS, you could fix WT2 to the inside face of T31 making sure that it is flush to the bottom and sides.

 

[T30rra]

I can't work out how the coal plate sits. The black left seems to need folding downwards but not sure and haven't got a clue about the right hand side

 

[Rob Pulham]

This might help

 

[T30rra]

This might help

Cheers Rob. Looks like rear left tab needs to come up on mine and the right side extension needs to be governed by the infill etch at the back (not done it yet). Did you have to fettle it to get it to fit between the sides?

 

[Rob Pulham]

I can't recall, it doesn't stand out in my memory, nor have I mentioned it in my build thread so perhaps not.

 

[Dave Holt]

Presumably, the outer edges near the back should be bent down to match the top corners of part WT2/turn-in on the side sheets, and as shown in the exploded diagram you posted earlier? It looks like WT2 fits on top of the two WT1 items, up against the front face of the rear bulkhead, T31.
There's a photo of the coal space in one of these tenders in the Wild Swan profile book, page 102, which might help. I would strongly recommend this book and its photo supplement as very good sources of information, if you haven't already got them.
Dave.

 

[T30rra]

Presumably, the outer edges near the back should be bent down to match the top corners of part WT2/turn-in on the side sheets, and as shown in the exploded diagram you posted earlier? It looks like WT2 fits on top of the two WT1 items, up against the front face of the rear bulkhead, T31.
There's a photo of the coal space in one of these tenders in the Wild Swan profile book, page 102, which might help. I would strongly recommend this book and its photo supplement as very good sources of information, if you haven't already got them.
Dave.

All sorted now, more or less thank you

 

[T30rra]

Tonight I put most bits of the coal pusher on, just the "guide rails?" Left to add but I might need to adjust position of the middle casting to fit them. I thought I'd dry fit it into the tender too and after some adjustment, it slides in

 

[T30rra]

A few more bits added to the front bulkhead tonight and a dry trial fit of it in place with the coal chute. I found it necessary to gentle ease one of turn ins on the left hand side of the tender body to be able to get the bulk head in.

 

[T30rra]

Nothing new exactly to show but it's now permanently fitted. Progress was only resumed tonight as i got... side tracked.... were doing a lot of diy at the minute getting ready for our sons arrival in November.

 

[T30rra]

Oh what a session... the tender Cowell? Fairing? I've no idea what's it called "the streamline bit on the top" has been added tonight and needs a bit of filler bit other than that I went to add the tender support frames...nope. The slots in the running plate are way under etched as has been quiet a bit on this so far. I'm not sure how best to make them wider to receive the parts, piercing saw I guess but what size blade?

 

[Dave Holt]

I sometimes find that the back, blunt, edge of a scalpel blade, or similar, can be used to widen etched slots, especially if it's mainly the cusp that is the problem rather than seriously narrow slots by poor design.
Dave.

 

[T30rra]

I sometimes find that the back, blunt, edge of a scalpel blade, or similar, can be used to widen etched slots, especially if it's mainly the cusp that is the problem rather than seriously narrow slots by poor design.
Dave.

Unfortunately it's the later on the running plate. The slots are narrower than the thickness of the etched parts they are to receive. I'll have to have a think.

 

[simond]

File down the tags?

 

[T30rra]

File down the tags?

An option but it would be easier to cut the slots wider I think

 

[Dave Holt]

You could use a file with edge teeth, ground down in thickness to suit the frame material. I have one created to make a slot on a model. Sorry for the blurred images.


Dave.