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[mswjr]

Help, I am building some gauge one coaches, I am trying to stick the ribs on the roof, The coach body shell is alloy, The roof ribs are plastic strip, I am using super glue, I am getting in a real mess, Mainly trying to hold down the plastic long enough to dry, I can clean it all up after but it is messy, And i have a lot of ribs on 6 coaches, So can anyone tell or advice me on any other glues, are super glues better than others to use, Is there a better way to do this. any Help would be Appreciated.
Thankyou
Garry

 

[Stephen Freeman]

The body shells are most likely aluminium, hence the problem. You can get solder and flux (nasty stuff I think), so you could try using metal strip instead. Personally I try to avoid large scale use of superglues as I find I am slightly allergic to it but sometimes there isn't much choice.

 

[Allen M]

Hi Garry
I assume these are the strips across the roof and therefore you are trying to glue straight strip to a curve.
Try pre-bending the strip. Use the coach roof or find/ make a metal support the same radius. Place the plastic strips over and heat in an oven until the 'sag' into the required shape. They will then be easier to hold in the correct place for gluing.
It is also possible to preform a full roof in a similar way.

Regards
Allen

 

[Alan]

You could use Superglue accelerator. one squirt and it's stuck.

 

[Daddyman]

...and also decelerate the superglue by squeezing a blob on to a piece of metal or plastic and leaving it in the open air for a while. This would give you more time for positioning. You don't need to glue all of it at once - just get the start right, tape the other end to hold it taught and squirt the accelerator under the bit you've got positioned. Then repeat for another centimetre or two.

Haven't people in the past used plastic solvents for this kind of job?

 

[Stephen Freeman]

The only thing is, I don't like using the accelerator, I found it tended to make the joint not as strong and brittle too.

 

[Daddyman]

The only thing is, I don't like using the accelerator, I found it tended to make the joint not as strong and brittle too.

Interesting - confirms my feeling. However, brittleness and lack of strength aren't issues in this case.

 

[mswjr]

Thankyou for the replies, much Appreciated, I have tried the plastic solvent idea that daddyman suggested, but did not think that the bond was strong enough, I did have better results today by using a cocktail stick , I used this to put a thin line on the coach body, Then the strip onto this, This seamed to work a bit quicker and i had less to clean up, I think that by the time i get onto the sixth coach, ( i have 6 to do ) This one will be quite good.
Garry

 

[Boxbrownie]

I would use Deluxe materials Super Phatic glue for something like that with dissimilar materials, great stuff.

 

[3 LINK]

I would use Deluxe materials Super Phatic glue for something like that with dissimilar materials, great stuff.

I have used the above glue on all the buildings I have built with great results, all the buildings are made out of mdf. You do not need to use a lot , and it wicks under the smallest of joints. Not the cheapest of solvents, but odourless and perfect with timber products. I have not used it on any other media, I will have to carry out some trials.

Martyn.

 

[mswjr]

Thankyou, I will check it out.

 

[Boxbrownie]

I have used the above glue on all the buildings I have built with great results, all the buildings are made out of mdf. You do not need to use a lot , and it wicks under the smallest of joints. Not the cheapest of solvents, but odourless and perfect with timber products. I have not used it on any other media, I will have to carry out some trials.

Martyn.

I now use it on all the little detail parts on rolling stock, with the super fine applicator nozzle it only need the smallest drop, it’ll stick metal, plastic,wood etc.

 

[Max M]

From what I can see a limitation is that one surface must be porous?

 

[Boxbrownie]

From what I can see a limitation is that one surface must be porous?

Are you referring to the Super Phatic? I have used it on everything from wood to wood and metal to metal it sticks fine.

edit : in fact just this afternoon I used a smidge to glue traction engine steering chains (metal) to the plastic steering bogie, perfect.

 

[Ressaldar]

Are you referring to the Super Phatic? I have used it on everything from wood to wood and metal to metal it sticks fine.

edit : in fact just this afternoon I used a smidge to glue traction engine steering chains (metal) to the plastic steering bogie, perfect.

does this give off the ‘odour’ that super glue does which causes the fogging to clear plastic windows.


regards

Mike

 

[Boxbrownie]

does this give off the ‘odour’ that super glue does which causes the fogging to clear plastic windows.


regards

Mike

No, I have not noticed any smell whatsoever using this glue, and not noticed any “vapour leeching” like super glue.

 

[Ressaldar]

Thanks for the heads up, I shall now set about buying some for the installation of the Class 22 cabs to their respective ends of the body.

regards

Mike

 

[Mark F]

Depending on the thickness of the strips on the roof, could you use self adhesive labels or tape rather than attempting to glue down plastic strip?

 

[Boxbrownie]

Thanks for the heads up, I shall now set about buying some for the installation of the Class 22 cabs to their respective ends of the body.

regards

Mike

BTW it wicks nicely as well, so something like your cabs I would probably hold them in place with tape/clamps and let the liquid wick through the joint.

 

[mswjr]

Mark f, Yes i could, I started doing it with the glue as i had the plastic strip, and that is the only way i could think of doing it , thou it was not easy Hence my glue question, Then on another forum , Someone else who builds gauge one coaches suggested the tape route, They stick the strip to thin double sided tape then stick it to the coach, They say it works really well. i have not done it this way as i will carry on the way i started so they all match. Thankyou for the suggestion.
Garry