The Gauge O Guild - Guildex Telford

adrian

Flying Squad
however I personally believe there are many who will be waiting for a single axle to pop off the rails, and shouting from the top of the Shropshire hills that Scale7 doesn't work.
Whilst I agree to a certain extent - it's a bit of a dilemma which is difficult to resolve. On the one hand we want to show that Scale7 works and need to demonstrate it can work much like Heckmondwike so it is useful to be able to control the operating conditions. However on the other side of the coin by being very protective of the layout operating conditions it can appear to be very insular - elitist and very much a clique. Likewise personally I do think a run-what-you-brung happy hour will do just as much to progress Scale7 modelling. I've had the pleasure to operate the 2mmFs layout St. Ruth on a couple of occasions - this is loosely based on Penzance however on a few turns the 14xx and auto-coach branch line working was replaced with a LNWR railmotor I had built. To a certain extent I think this is the image perception that Scale7 needs to tackle. The nay-sayers will always be nay-sayers so sod them and have a bit of fun.
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
I think if that happens with O Fs then it's kinda brushed off, however I personally believe there are many who will be waiting for a single axle to pop off the rails, and shouting from the top of the Shropshire hills that Scale7 doesn't work.

We are still trying to be accepted and included into the 7mm hobby. We are still in the phase of proving Scale7 'can' work well. Love Lane is more than aware that we are at the forefront of trying to changes people's perceptions at the end of August in a little town, west of Birmingham.

Of course it'll work - it's just a different set of tolerances. In the US they already have portable P48 exhibition/demonstration roundy roundy (for want of better words) layouts - therefore why can't we in S7.

As for the single axle popping off the rails - this can occur irrespective of the scale/gauge combination.
 

SimonT

Western Thunderer
I've always run other peoples S7 locos on my exhibition layouts (Brokenborough, Braunstone Gate, The Field, Y Cae, Aberbeeg and The Back End) but only when time permits and when it works to the correct operating system (such as DCC now). I can appreciate why Love Lane want to keep to the script when showing their railway; we were much the same with Aberbeeg but did allow Richard Carr's 31 to appear in deepest Cymru!
Nearly all the times something comes off it is because of a biological failure; the phrase 'biological failure' originated from the Williams F1 team when a Brumie drove for them!
Simon

PS Phils 101 is gong to look a bit daft on a freight only stub!
 

Eastsidepilot

Western Thunderer
Of course it'll work - it's just a different set of tolerances. In the US they already have portable P48 exhibition/demonstration roundy roundy (for want of better words) layouts - therefore why can't we in S7.

As for the single axle popping off the rails - this can occur irrespective of the scale/gauge combination.

I have got into discussion with several "naysayers" trying to tell me it don't work ( including a very famous one )at exhibitions, when asked what they've built in S7 the same old answer is " I have'nt", my comment " how the F*** would you know then" :D

Col.
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
Oh yes, very true.....
img789 TM 38A Film IDW5H May img789 TM40A May 63 Derailed pannier Old Oak Station Pilots - Copy.jpg

img774 TM 5AFilm ID95 Jun 63 - Copy.jpg

Pannier 9755 at Old Oak Common May or June 1963. Copyright Tim Mills. These are shots from Tim's extensive collection which I'm about to start processing and selecting a number for a photo display at Loughborough GCR at the January gala. He's kindly and generously given me free access to all his negatives and slides (the slides are already dealt with) so more from his wonderful collection very soon. (Tim and I were among the earliest volunteers in the very late '60s for the Main Line Preservation Group which became the GCR so have been good friends for 50 years).

Brian
 

simond

Western Thunderer
Usually the 'spare' carried on the hook are for shunting vehicles around tighter curves where a bit extra reach is required.

Thanks Dave, but it doesn’t look any longer, and the attached one (behind) appears to be a screw.

I suppose that if the chain is going “hook to hook” it’ll effectively be a bit longer (maybe 2 or 3”?) than if it goes “gedge slot to hook” - I wonder if that is enough to make a valuable difference. I guess it might be.

Cheers
Simon
 

Eastsidepilot

Western Thunderer
Thanks Dave, but it doesn’t look any longer, and the attached one (behind) appears to be a screw.

I suppose that if the chain is going “hook to hook” it’ll effectively be a bit longer (maybe 2 or 3”?) than if it goes “gedge slot to hook” - I wonder if that is enough to make a valuable difference. I guess it might be.

Cheers
Simon
I have seen this in other photo's of shunting loco's so maybe more common than we think.
Or is it because it's a passenger rated loco with screw link being used for shunting, the crew wouldn't want the faff of doing up a screw link each time !
Col.
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
Well, I published the photo and I'd not even noticed that! However, could that just be a spare coupling? I'll check my other photos and see whether there's evidence of other shunting locos carrying a spare coupling?

B
 

Scale7JB

Western Thunderer
So....

Back to Telford. Do make sure you come and say hello on saturday or sunday, be good to meet people new and old. Possibly even have the daily WT meet by Love Lane ?

Are there many staying over on the friday and saturday evenings ?

JB.
 
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