Midland 3 plank open wagon

Discussion in 'G3' started by Jon Nazareth, 8 April 2019.

  1. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    This is going to be my version of Mike Williams' Midland 3 plank open wagon. I have a drawing dated 1875 and I'm following it as best I can. I've put in some rivets to represent the bolts that pass from the top edge of the sides and hold the planks together. I've also added two tie rings each side and two on the ends, also shown on the drawing. I will also be making up some wooden brake blocks and the gear that goes with them.

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  2. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Modified brakes fitted, the V hanger is moved to the outer face of the solebar, but I've not fitted the inner brake shaft support as I won't be able to strip down things with it fixed in place. I've put in a dummy bolt head each end to represent the bolts that hold the planks together and there are three along each side doing the same. I've also fitted eight tie rings, two each side and two at each end. The buffer guides are as per drawing. I'm off now to strip it down and give it a go in the ultrasonic cleaner.

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  3. Mike W

    Mike W Western Thunderer

    Jon, how have you fixed the sides in place? With my usual one piece body I often pick wagons up by one side, but I wouldn't like to do that to a wagon where the side is fixed by glue alone. I pick this one up by the ends, but one day I'll forget. I have been toying with the idea of a few pins acting as dowels and fixed with Aradlite? Or maybe you feel it is OK anyway?

  4. Spitfire2865

    Spitfire2865 Western Thunderer

    When I get to doing mine again, itll definitely need pins. But its quite hard to drill perfectly centered.
    Or I could use the ironwork I designed to hinge the sides...
  5. geoff_nicholls

    geoff_nicholls Western Thunderer

    those sheet rope rings look interesting, did you produce them yourself?
  6. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    I ran some super glue along the inside and it held until a few days ago when I picked it up and one side let go. I've re glued it now but I must be more careful in future. It certainly needs something for those forgetful moments.
    Yes, I do. The rings are nickel silver and I use Gibson 4mm short handrail knobs Ref. 4M53, one of Jamie's ideas.

  7. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Here it is all finished bar the number plate. Because I made up wooden brake blocks, I had to make new brake gear/links to go with it. Looking at these pictures, I've noticed that I've forgotten to fit the brake shaft support, better go and do that.


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  8. Spitfire2865

    Spitfire2865 Western Thunderer

    Where do you source your 5 links and the shackle?
  9. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    I bend up the links myself and the shackle is a fabrication from two turned eyes diver soldered to a length of, in this case, thick copper wire. The whole affair is quite strong.

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  10. Spitfire2865

    Spitfire2865 Western Thunderer

    Oh wow. More labour intensive than Im capable of. But its damn impressive.