LNWR parcel van

GrahameH

Western Thunderer
If you can't buy one then make it eh John, I'm very much looking forward to seeing this scratch build progress, nicely done so far.

Always a nice subject in my eyes and adds to the overall layout scene too.

Are you going to attempt a scratch build of the wheels or do you have some to use already and have you sourced a decent horse to harness it to ?

One more question if I may, how have you managed to create the curves to the roof and base, do you think that they will remain that way ? ( Hopefully yes ! )

I'm considering a suitable GW version but my material stocks are currently low.....humph !

G
 

john lewsey

Western Thunderer
If you can't buy one then make it eh John, I'm very much looking forward to seeing this scratch build progress, nicely done so far.

Always a nice subject in my eyes and adds to the overall layout scene too.

Are you going to attempt a scratch build of the wheels or do you have some to use already and have you sourced a decent horse to harness it to ?

One more question if I may, how have you managed to create the curves to the roof and base, do you think that they will remain that way ? ( Hopefully yes ! )

I'm considering a suitable GW version but my material stocks are currently low.....humph !

G
Hi Grahame
Phil (Brush Type Four) can do some wheels for me although I will have to gently sand the spindles to a round shape. The roof and floor I put into boiling water and bend around a piece of tube and then put in cold water. It will hopefully make into a nice model
John
 

john lewsey

Western Thunderer
If you can't buy one then make it eh John, I'm very much looking forward to seeing this scratch build progress, nicely done so far.

Always a nice subject in my eyes and adds to the overall layout scene too.

Are you going to attempt a scratch build of the wheels or do you have some to use already and have you sourced a decent horse to harness it to ?

One more question if I may, how have you managed to create the curves to the roof and base, do you think that they will remain that way ? ( Hopefully yes ! )

I'm considering a suitable GW version but my material stocks are currently low.....humph !

G
I did toy with the idea of making it with the back doors open
 

GrahameH

Western Thunderer
I assumed the old hot water trick was the way to go, I'd be interested to see how the wheels turn out but mind how you go with the sanding !

Sometimes its little things like leaving doors open etc that make for more realism.

G
 

BG Rich

Member
John,
A really attractive subject for modelling. Thanks for posting the drawing - my layout could do with a small parcel delivery van too. Looking forward to seeing further progress.
Graham H,
Just a thought re: modelling material in these Covid times. Why not try card for a cheap alternative to plastic, if that is in short supply. I have been happy with making wagons, coaches etc from old cereal packets or file dividers. A coat of button polish (or patent knotting, which is the same thing) mixed 50/50 with meths makes the card moisture proof. (diluted PVA will do as well although it takes longer to dry). I like to use Gum Arabic from the art shop as a glue for laminating or I have used a contact adhesive like UHU. If it all goes pear shaped you have only invested a little time (which is currently more plentiful in lockdown) and used up some material from the re-cycling bin. I am even thinking of making wheels for my van from a thin strip of copier paper wrapped several times around a suitably sized tube to make the rims or felloes. Spokes laminated from thin card would work I think. Worth a try to keep the modelling ticking over?
Best wishes
Rich
 

simond

Western Thunderer
Card is wonderful stuff, and laser cuts beautifully.

I’ve used a lot of cereal packets but just bought 50 A4 sheets of 1mm greyboard for £6, which avoids having to avoid the Kellogg’s cockerel showing where he shouldn’t.

I’ll have a go at some wheels tomorrow just for fun.

Atb
Simon
 

john lewsey

Western Thunderer
Hi Rich & Simon it has been on my mind to try cocktail sticks for the spindles on the wheels they are round and all the same size. Just a thought
John
 
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GrahameH

Western Thunderer
try cocktail sticks for the spindles on the wheels
John

That's an interesting thought, how do they scale up to the drawing ?

If you do use them maybe cut out a small temporary jig to hold them in place as you glue each one to the wheel hub / rim.

G
 

john lewsey

Western Thunderer
That's an interesting thought, how do they scale up to the drawing ?

If you do use them maybe cut out a small temporary jig to hold them in place as you glue each one to the wheel hub / rim.

G
Hi Grahame
I think that they are about the right scale and probably more important is they are all the same size
 

Mike W

Western Thunderer
Here's one in a contemporary postcard. When you start to look there are actually quite a few old pictures with them in.

Mike
 

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BG Rich

Member
Mike W,
Lovely modelling and lettering and painting of your van. Something for me to aspire to. On the photo front I looked in LNWR Miscellany Vol 2 first of all. Plate 223 has a reproduction of an LNWR postcard with a tricycle with a basket on the front and a 4 wheel van as well as the two wheeled van that John is making. A very smart grey horse too. Volume 1 has plate 212 which has the same rectangular window by the driver's seat which is different to the one in Vol 1 which has a horizontal oval window in the same position. The two horizontal bars inside the window are clearly seen, presumably to stop the driver putting his elbow through it. Of note is that the two horses both have cropped tails. I am not sure when that practice was stopped.

Thanks for the postcard view of the rear of the van - that helps a lot.
Best wishes
Rich
 

simond

Western Thunderer
As I said, just for fun, after a visit from Cap’n C, we have some 4’ wheel rims, some spokes and some hub bits.

1mm greyboard, spokes are 0.7 less the kerf, I’d guess around 0.5 wide, I won’t be trying to round them!

Two wheels assembled with hubs and a ring either side, two that didn’t cut cleanly and four that I’ve yet to play with.

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I think they look suitably delicate, though cutting tyre rings from something thinner might be better, 3mm is perhaps a little thick.

Atb
Simon
 

john lewsey

Western Thunderer
Hi Mike
Thank you for the photos they are superb and show just what I was hoping for. If you still have the model some more photos would be great
John
 

john lewsey

Western Thunderer
As I said, just for fun, after a visit from Cap’n C, we have some 4’ wheel rims, some spokes and some hub bits.

1mm greyboard, spokes are 0.7 less the kerf, I’d guess around 0.5 wide, I won’t be trying to round them!

Two wheels assembled with hubs and a ring either side, two that didn’t cut cleanly and four that I’ve yet to play with.

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I think they look suitably delicate, though cutting tyre rings from something thinner might be better, 3mm is perhaps a little thick.

Atb
Simon
Hi Simon
Did you laser cut those they look rather nice
John
 

GrahameH

Western Thunderer
As I said, just for fun, after a visit from Cap’n C, we have some 4’ wheel rims, some spokes and some hub bits.

1mm greyboard, spokes are 0.7 less the kerf, I’d guess around 0.5 wide, I won’t be trying to round them!

Two wheels assembled with hubs and a ring either side, two that didn’t cut cleanly and four that I’ve yet to play with.

View attachment 123237

I think they look suitably delicate, though cutting tyre rings from something thinner might be better, 3mm is perhaps a little thick.

Atb
Simon


Superb stuff Simon !
 
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