7mm Heyside: 7mm L&Y, late 50s/early 60s

Discussion in 'Layout Progress' started by Dikitriki, 16 December 2010.

  1. Heather Kay

    Heather Kay Western Thunderer

    I suppose officially they should be "typeface" spotters, as a font is part of a typeface. Then again, they may be discussing the particular font of the Gill Sans typeface to be used on platform signage…

    I’ll get my Macintosh.
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  2. 76043

    76043 Western Thunderer

    They really need to be Men in Black Polo Necks, then the resemblance to Steve Jobs is complete.
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  3. Prairie Tank

    Prairie Tank Western Thunderer

    I have a feeling that these two are going to be kept very busy.

    John :)

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  4. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad

    Arthur Ramsbotham was out and about with his cine gear recording this unparalleled event.

  5. Prairie Tank

    Prairie Tank Western Thunderer

    Thanks to a brave fellow Western Region enthusiast, who smuggled in a 'Box Brownie' to capture the scene we now have further evidence of this daring dash...…....

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    On a serious note, any model that is displayed or run on this superb lay out is instantly improved, visually.

    John :)
  6. Dikitriki

    Dikitriki Flying Squad


    We hosted Dan Randall and Richard Billington yesterday. Dan wanted to test run his o2. Not only did it look splendid, it ran impeccably.

  7. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Great video Richard. I really should finish my O2 kit from the same stable. Seeing that one running does inspire though.

    If Dan is reading this - what sound chip did you use?
  8. Dan Randall

    Dan Randall Western Thunderer

    Hi Richard

    Many thanks to Linda and yourself for your most excellent hospitality. :thumbs: Richard and I, had a great day talking (and playing!), trains with like-minded company and it was lovely to meet John, Sue & Alan. It was also good to catch up with Tim, who did the DCC sound installation.


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  9. oldravendale

    oldravendale Western Thunderer

    That is quite lovely - shades of the IOW (if the bunker was extended!) I have one to build in the stash which I bought from Alan Gibson himself, so you can tell how long ago that was! It'll be built as one of the IOW locos - my uncle drove the last steam service on the IOW, then retired. His fireman was his son........

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  10. TheSnapper

    TheSnapper Western Thunderer

    "Didn't we have a lovely time....."

    The decoder was supplied by the O2's eventual owner.
    The sound project is actually for a Stanier Black5 from Locoman @ DC Kits here
    (This was chosen apparently because of the "hooter" type whistle).
    The decoder is a Zimo MX645 fitted with a Zimo SC68 Stay alive unit
    Speaker is a Zimo Cube between the frames, firing downwards.
    Obviously some "tweaking" was involved to get it sounding right.
    However, Dan did an excellent job with the build, which is why it runs so well!
  11. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    I only hope that the 7mm version of the Gibson kit is better than the 4mm one was. The instructions were a particular lowlight, but the absence of tabs or other positive location and some abysmal castings live long in the memory...

  12. Dan Randall

    Dan Randall Western Thunderer

    Hi Chris

    The chip was supplied by Steve, the loco's owner. I seem to recall it's a Zimo chip, but is actually for a Black 5. I don't think Steve had much choice when he bought it because apparently, O2's have hooters rather than whistles, so that's what he wanted. However, I think it was the only 2 cylinder, hooter equipped chip available at the time from the (unknown), chip supplier. I think he said there is a sound chip for an Isle of Wight O2, but of course, that has a Westinghouse pump fitted.

    I believe Tim (Ingman, a.k.a "The Snapper"), had to make a few tweaks to the settings to make it sound more like a small tank loco and less like a Black 5, but that it ought to be possible to use a chip for something like an M7 and simply substitute a hooter for the whistle. Hopefully, he'll be along soon to assist with your requirements.

    Edit: Tim beat me to it!


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  13. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    I think it was only the IOW O2s that had (Caledonian Railway) hooters; certainly as far as I can tell from photos. They were a Drummond fitting, but they seem to have been pretty quickly removed on the mainland after complaints from the public. The only LSWR loco on the mainland to retain a hooter was 119 the Royal Train loco (a T9), which she retained until withdrawn.

    As you say, Dan, an M7 profile would be a good choice for an O2 I reckon...

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  14. Dan Randall

    Dan Randall Western Thunderer

    Thanks Steph - I'll make Steve aware of your observations. If his O2 perhaps ought to have a whistle rather than a hooter, I'm sure he can get the chip amended at some point. I must say, I do prefer the sound of a whistle myself.


  15. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Sorry I hadn't 'clocked' it before, but yes; you've built 199 with a hooter. :(
    Here's a photo of her in the early BR period; whistle clearly visible: Adams 02 Class Mainland UK Pre 1968 - Railway-Photography

    Actually an interesting picture all round really - Adams Radial 3488 ahead, an L11 with BR numberplate (30409) behind and a Urie tender with Gill Sans lettering on the next road...

  16. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Looks like an additional plate at the base of the water tank top, presumably to repair rusting.

    I'm building mine as 30200 but can't see a similar plate on that loco.
  17. Dan Randall

    Dan Randall Western Thunderer

    Uh oh!...


  18. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Yep - the other area that seems to have hurried repairs on these locos was the turn-out on the bunker rear. On an Adams loco it's typically 1/4" steel used for tank and bunker platework. Quite serious corrosion, even for a 60 year old loco!

  19. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Yes, I've clocked a plate added to the bunker rear in 30200. As usual the clear photo was found after the body went into primer...

    Another peculiarity with 30200 was that there were quite a few photos of the loco running on late BR with the safety valve shroud / casing missing.
  20. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    This will be the one SR purchased from the EKR in 1946. Interesting to see it in lined malachite.