G3 Mid Wales Railway Brake Van/LBSC 4 ton ballast wagon.

Discussion in 'G3' started by Arty, 12 July 2018.

  1. Spitfire2865

    Spitfire2865 Western Thunderer

    I say try the pink. Colours at this era were quite striking to our modern sensible eyes.
     
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  2. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    3722AC21-12D3-4E98-AEB2-0AE3F01CD9CE.jpeg A bit more progress on the LBSC ballast wagons.
    Had some waterslide transfers made, the only way with what will be a rake of 8.
    I think some weathering is called for.
     
  3. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Arty
    That looks very good! I hate to say this but, I think that the LBSCR goods colour was, for early wagons, lavender grey. When Stroudley took over it became grey.

    Jon

    P.S. Where did you get the pinky colour from? That could be the colour that I need for my SER stepped wagon.
     
  4. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    Well according to Southern wagons vol 2, vermillion was applied to engineering dept brakes and ballast wagons up to 1895, and as they were ED wagons, my excuse was that they were never re-painted before they were outlawed as dumb buffered wagons and sold off for private use. Vermilion sounds a bit too bright to me, so I’ve used Halfords red primer.
     
  5. Jon Nazareth

    Jon Nazareth Western Thunderer

    Arty
    I stand corrected. I must read up about these things before I make such comments.

    Jon
     
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  6. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    No matter Jon, I was dithering over grey/red, but as grey is so tedious I thought a bit of colour would be good. I have a couple of Midland wagons and a brake which really should be grey.
    Although looking at the few pictures of the ballast wagons, they just look bleached out.
    And presumably the paint they were using didn’t weather very well.
     
  7. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Very nice wagon.
    I was under the assumption from what I've read, was vermilion was the name LSWR/SR used for red oxide.
     
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  8. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    Too cold in the workshop today, so took up residence on the dining table to make a start on weathering some ballast wagons.
    Needs some dirty rust on the ironwork.

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    ballast22.jpg
     
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  9. Spitfire2865

    Spitfire2865 Western Thunderer

    Those look excellent.
     
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  10. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    A bit more detail, axlebox covers, and ballast. ballast32.jpg
     
  11. Dog Star

    Dog Star Western Thunderer

    That does look like spent (aka "dirty") ballast, please tell us what you have used / done to achieve the effect.

    What keeps the doors closed?
     
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  12. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    The small cotter pins I haven’t put on yet
     
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  13. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

  14. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    A day out for the ballast train, with the help of Geoff Nicholls Rundle and his tram engine.
    A good day at the G3 Society AGM at Flitwick.

     
  15. jamiepage

    jamiepage Western Thunderer

    Well, the whole thing, train and setting, looks excellent. Lots of character.
    Congratulations to both you and Geoff.
     
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  16. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    Thanks Jamie, it does make a difference to see rolling stock moving, very rewarding.
     
  17. Mike W

    Mike W Western Thunderer

    The whole thing - layout, stock, movement, was excellent. Even that mad 4ft radius curve somehow looks good!
     
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  18. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    An intruder into the ballast rake, another of David Mills laser cut MDF kits.

    wcr2plank7.jpg

    A West Cornwall mineral wagon.

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    A few extra resin and whitemetal detail bits added.
     
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  19. David Victor Mills

    David Victor Mills New Member

    Hi everyone. I've just come to join in the fun.
    I was delighted to read about your experiences and kind comments with my kits. As some if you know I started making 16mm and 10mm kits mainly for my own amusement, but ended up a slave to a certain friendly pressure group in G3.
    The kits are rescaled from 10mm as are my latest 7mm ones.
    Occasionally glitches occur with tabs and slot sizes, but they can then be corrected.
    Jon asked me thus morning about the WCR wagon modified by Richard to a curved end version.
    I rather like it too, so will add the extra curved planks in the next kits - if anyone is interested?
    I'll do the same in 10mm and 7mm.
     
  20. Arty

    Arty Western Thunderer

    Good to see you on here David, I think your kits have a lot to offer in all the scales.
    They let your imagination run riot with industrial type wagons, and allow you to make a rake of wagons rather than an isolated example, which is much more prototypical.
    I shall be making more of the 4ton minerals of varying versions - end door, side door, rounded end planks etc.
    They also allow you to use outdated detail parts like safety chains, dodgy brake gear.

    Gauge 3 is a bit of a niche area of railway modeling, because it doesn't lend itself to "indoor" layouts, but using light railways/industrial prototype, all becomes possible - I'm afraid Pacifics and long shiny express trains leave me cold.

    Richard