'Ere we go again....STILL in 1:32 scale.....

[John D]

A recent blitz to our bathroom resulted in a off cut of 9mm ply appearing in the skip, instantly retrieved by moi and chopped up into 3 inch wide strips 31 inches long and put to one side whilst I figured out the next step. After the demise of World's End Quay I was determined not to build anything that, for  a small layout, would not fit comfortably in the car and not result in damage to it or me due to handling the  heavyweight  sections. So.....off to B&Q for some Knauf spaceboard and after a bit of spare timber found in the garage  I've come up with this.........
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  The layout, made up of three sections is 7ft 9inches long and 22 inches wide, the trackplan is the same as I used on my previous 7mm scale Alexandra Yard layout. The trackwork is real light railway stuff , perhaps a tad too light for some, being Karlgarin code 100 FB , I had a supply of it from a previously failed  project just sitting there, which is part spiked down to basswood sleepers and soldered to PC board ones in other places.The turnouts are operated by Tortoise units which have been modified so that they can be embedded sideways into the 2" thick spaceboard thus....
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  a pivot on the end of the unit connects upwards to the tie bar.
  So that's it so far, some of the buildings from WEQ will get re-cycled, the area covered by cardboard will have some latex  cobblestones put on it and the cut out area at the end of the board is where the end of a storage cassette will fit in ....for the present on with the wiring 

 

[Simon]

Fab!

And there was I thinking we'd lost you to boxcabs, carfloats and S scale.....

That'll be lovely for Camrail 2012 if you're agreeable

Simon

 

[John D]

Hi Simon,
  Boxcabs and carfloats in HO are still on though the S scale scene is a bit of a dead duck due to the cost of getting freight car kits from the States . As for the 1:32 layout ....Camrail 2012 here it comes 

P.S. sent you an e-mail Re: West Somerset book......

 

[Jordan]

Hi Simon,
  Boxcabs and carfloats in HO are still on though the S scale scene is a bit of a dead duck due to the cost of getting freight car kits from the States .

Have you tried The Belfast Caboose for S Scale US-outline? I believe he's the UK Importer now having taken over from Kelvin White recently.
Google can't find a Website, but contact details are :-
Belfast Caboose
20 Priory Manor
HOLYWOOD
Co. Down BT18 0LD
Northern Ireland
E-Mail: browne151@bbinternet.com
Tel/fax: (028) 9042 5110

I know what you mean about Shipping charges from the US - [s:sq8rp94z]some[/s:sq8rp94z] most of those quoted on Ebay.com are just ridiculously astronomical!!

 

[ceejaydee]

This looks quite intriguing John; 1:32 in a space that you would normally only consider suitable for something like a very basic branch terminus in 4mm.

I'm interested in what radius you have used for your points?

Will we be seeing a fleet of Rustons on here I wonder  :scratch:

 

[John D]

Thanks for that Jordan......I did have a conversation with Kelvin at our show at Shepshed year before last (I think) re:S scale stuff ,nothing came of it. The stuff  on e-bay really is getting silly as regards shipping , the guy in N. Ireland  could be worth following up if I decide to continue with S.

 

[John D]

Hi Chris,
    I suppose that I'm in the same position as when I did 'Alexandra Yard' in 7mm scale , people were gobsmacked,at the time,  that you could do a  7mm layout in 6 foot of space (plus storage yard) . So in 1:32 scale we have the same track layout (nearly) in 7ft 9ins. with a point radius of 4ft which a Ruston waltzes round and will even take the Manning Wardle tank. A  gaggle of Rustons (is this a new collective name?) may well appear on it though I'll have to 'modernize' my waqgonry from its World's End Quay days to suit 

 

[Simon]

Hi Simon,
  Boxcabs and carfloats in HO are still on though the S scale scene is a bit of a dead duck due to the cost of getting freight car kits from the States . As for the 1:32 layout ....Camrail 2012 here it comes 

P.S. sent you an e-mail Re: West Somerset book......

The book is in the post, standard parcel, posted 30 minutes ago ;D

That's you booked for Camrail 2012 then, dates are the 21st and 22nd July 2012.

Also, the shop received its first stock copy of the SWA Newton book that you recommended  today - a really lovely book.

Simon

PS Landlord has contacted a plumber

 

[JimG]

.....though the S scale scene is a bit of a dead duck due to the cost of getting freight car kits from the States

Talk to Kelvin.  He has been disposing of a lot of his US S scale freight stock and at good prices.  He disposed of a lot of his older period stock a few months ago and I got a few of them along with a GP9.  I understand he was intending to dispose of his modern era stock at a (then) later date,  which could be now.

Jim.

 

[John D]

Hi Jim,
  Looks like I missed the boat then as I'm interested in the 1930/40's period to fit in with my boxcab diesel. I suppose one day I could knock up a 'shunting plank' in S for the diesel and say a dozen cars , might have to have a go at scratch building some....argghh!!...another project 

 

[Jordan]

... people were gobsmacked,at the time,  that you could do a  7mm layout in 6 foot of space (plus storage yard) . ....

Of my three O Scale layouts, the longest is 6ft plus 4ft Fiddleyard...

I'm interested in your use of Knauf Spaceboard for such a large scale. I've seen portable HO layouts built on it, and am using it myself for my fixed home layout, but I wouldn't have considered using it for O Scale due to the weight of locos. I expect that the short, braced boards help rigidity, and small G1 locos probably weigh rather less than something like a Heljan 7mm diesel...!! :scratch:

 

[Dog Star]

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Also, the shop received its first stock copy of the SWA Newton book that you recommended  today - a really lovely book.
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Please excuse my asking...  SWA Newton book - details?
thank you, Graham

 

[ceejaydee]

Hi Chris,
    I suppose that I'm in the same position as when I did 'Alexandra Yard' in 7mm scale , people were gobsmacked,at the time,  that you could do a  7mm layout in 6 foot of space (plus storage yard) . So in 1:32 scale we have the same track layout (nearly) in 7ft 9ins. with a point radius of 4ft which a Ruston waltzes round and will even take the Manning Wardle tank. A  gaggle of Rustons (is this a new collective name?) may well appear on it though I'll have to 'modernize' my waqgonry from its World's End Quay days to suit 

Thanks John.
Hmmm 4'radius has got me thinking about my own indoor 1:32 project again  :scratch:
I have around 8' of length to play with and was thinking of something similar, although your track plan is way better than the simple sidings I had in mind, on which to shunt a few wagons using my Tower Pug and 48DS (when I build it) although I think I may be pushing it to think that I could use the J94.

Strangely the Pug will go around 2' rad curves (LGB R1) pulling 9' or 10' wb stock even using 3-links and I imagine the Ruston would too.

 

[Ressaldar]

I'm interested in your use of Knauf Spaceboard for such a large scale. I've seen portable HO layouts built on it, and am using it myself for my fixed home layout, but I wouldn't have considered using it for O Scale due to the weight of locos. I expect that the short, braced boards help rigidity, and small G1 locos probably weigh rather less than something like a Heljan 7mm diesel...!! :scratch:
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Hi Jordan,

Our Club layout is 38'x15' and is constructed using 75 thick Styrofoam with ply sides and ends and there are no signs of warp or deflection. The ply is bonded to the Styrofoam with solvent free 'no-nails' and there are blocking pieces in the corners and under the running length of the boards, again bonded with the 'no-nails'

 

[John D]

solvent free 'no-nails'

  Hmmm.....  I've stuck the ply to the spaceboard with Wickes solvented grip stuff and there's no problem at all. I've seen it before that people have used 'no-nails' and even ordinary PVA ,I've experimented with the 'no-nails' myself and found that whilst it sets nicely round the edges ,in the middle it's still liquid as the polystyrene's so dense the air can't get in for it to go off (I presume it does....eventually). At least with the solvented stuff it all goes off rock hard at the same time.

 

[John D]

Please excuse my asking...  SWA Newton book - details?

  'Railways and rural life' published jointly by English Heritage and Leicester museum. It's a book of Newton's photographs (held in Leicester museum) documenting the construction of the Great Central Rly.  from Nottingham to Marylebone. Not only does it show the building work and various contractors engines,navvies etc. but also shots of the life in villages along the route at the time........ a really lovely book.

 

[Ressaldar]

  At least with the solvented stuff it all goes off rock hard at the same time.

but I think you will find that it also attacks the styrene over time. The use of the 'solvent free' and perhaps I should have said, 'water based' is supposed to let the glue dry right through on the face of the bond.

cheers

Mike

 

[John D]

I think you will find that it also attacks the styrene over time.

  We'll see.........I'm a glass half full person    ......my HO New York waterfront empire was put together using the same stuff a while back....it's still OK

 

[Ressaldar]

Hi John,

let's hope for both our sakes that we are both right.

regards

Mike

 

[John D]

Here's hoping  .......could be a case of 'this layout will self destruct in x seconds'