7mm Miscellany

[paulc]

Hi Pad , I am also at the painting stage of a class 20 Pewter monster and I usually get a copy of Locomotive illustrated to go with the any new class of loco that I build . To quote ," overall B R loco green with red buffer beams and a mid grey roof down to the top of the bodyside doors ", but in all the photos the grey stops in line with the handrail.
Hope this helps .
Cheers Paul

 

[P A D]

Thanks Paul.
Mick has that book also. He did all the masking off for me to spray and then went out for lunch with a mate. I rang him and asked what colour the roof should be as it wasn't masked and he said green. By roof, I meant the whole top so off I went, but he thought I just meant the cab roof and didn't realise he had overlooked to mask the bonnet roof. He's done it now but couldn't resist a quick play


Back tracking to the Derby Lightweight, he realised that he had missed the "M" from the number on one side. Neither off us spotted it and if anybody on here did, they kept schtum.


Cheers,
Peter

 

[simond]

Not if you leave only 4 tools in it!
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Peter,

That’s 100 sq cms...

10 square centimetres is 3-and-a-bit centimetres square!

Atb
Simon

 

[P A D]

Peter,

That’s 100 sq cms...

10 square centimetres is 3-and-a-bit centimetres square!

Atb
Simon

Pedantry on Western Thunder! What next, kits than can actually be built?
Boris Johnson never let's accuracy or the truth get in the way of a good story and look where it's got him.

But you are of course correct. Must have been drinking when I wrote that.

10 square centimetres = 3/5 of FA.

Cheers,
Peter

 

[simond]

Peter,

I’m so tempted to expand on your second theme, but I fear the wrath of Adrian...


Simon

 

[adrian]

I would hope we've all got more productive things to be doing - on both counts.

 

[SimonT]

The Met Man on the six o'clock news last night informed us that the graphic 100mm of rain was a metre of rain! Rule 1 of professional aviation is never, ever trust a Met Man. It's normally expressed a lot ruder!

 

[P A D]

The bonnet roof of the Class 20 is now grey down to the cant rail. Sorted.


Cheers,
Peter

 

[Shedrail]

Nick,
It's home made from two short lengths of wood as mentioned in the thread.

Here's something else that may be of interest. They are called cup burrs and I found them by chance on the internet so got a couple to give them a try.
They are used for tidying up the ends of wire after snipping with side cutters. The cups have "blades " on the inside that round off the end of the wire by inserting the wire and spinning the burr in a drill. I got them for rounding off BA brass screws after shortening.

There are various sizes and I have the 2 3mm and 1.8mm but they go smaller than that. 2.3 mm will round off a 10BA but as yet I've not found any bigger that would do 8BA. The company is Cooksongold, no link but just Google them and they'll pop up.
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Moving on to adding weight to model locos, I purchased a few pounds of lead shot from a diving supplies shop recently as it's about half the price of "liquid lead" from modelling outlets. The idea was to put it into some sort of fabric tube, tie it off and insert into the boiler, in the case of my Gladiator Duchess. For the tube I decided to try a tubular finger bandage. First tie off one end. Then thread the open end onto a funnel and pour in the lead shot until full. Tie off the open end and thread into the boiler via the firebox. The below tube is about 6 inches long and weighs 2 pounds, which increased the weight of the loco to 4 pounds which should be plenty for it to pull a decent load. I'll bring it to Kettering and give a buzz around the test track.
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I'll be doing the same to the Finney A3 and MOK 4MT after painting. For the A4 j can add sheet lead into the boiler casing.
Another finishing off job on the Duchess was to paint the balance weights on the driving wheels. The wheels were only chemically blackened and not sent over to Warren Haywood for painting with the rest of the model. The balance weights looked a bit brown compared to the rims so I've painted them with some Humbrol black 85, with a couple of drops of white added to make the black less intense.
Any excuse to post pictures of the Duchess.
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That Mr. Haywood does a spray a nice drop (or two) of paint.
Cheers,
Peter

Peter,

Have look at eBay where they have larger sizes of cup burrs from the same maker

 

[P A D]

Peter,

Have look at eBay where they have larger sizes of cup burrs from the same maker

Yes I am aware, but thanks for mentioning it. I have a set of about dozen now starting around 0.5mm up to about 2.5mm. I find them really useful in removing the burrs off thd ends of wire after snipping with side cutters. Much easier than using a file.

Cheers,
Peter

 

[jcm@gwr]

Peter,

Watch out that your drill holder doesn't get damp. I did something similar many years ago for my small number drills but the outhouse where my workshop was sited tended to get a bit damp on occasion and the drills became quite tightly held in their holes. I think it was a mixture of the drill shanks rusting in the wood, and the wood expanding to make the holes smaller diameter.

Jim.

Good point Jim, but my work bench is in doors.
Cheers,
Peter

I would give it a few coats of Shellac to stop it swelling.
The advantage of Shellac is that each coat mixes with the previous,
so it doesn't add much thickness. Once dry, it's waterproof.

 

[P A D]

The Class 20 in moving closer to being finished, with numbering and weathering coming up next. Having done some of the initial building, I passed it back to my brother Mick who completed it. I have since done the spraying of the top coats and he is doing all the brush work and reassembling etc. The build was started over on RMW by me and then taken over by Mick.

 

[LarryG]

Very neat spray job there on the EE Bo-Bo....

 

[Jinty 52]

Looking at your pic I'm pleased how it has come out, and how well it runs. It's a shame that the windows are so small that you can hardly see the effort I put into the cab interior!

Those two wagons behind it are next in line for completion. They are semi scratch builds using left over Slaters components. The one on the left is fitted with an O Gauge track cleaning unit available from Ten Commandments (usual disclaimer).

Mick

 

[P A D]

Thanks Larry, not a pro job but I'm pleased with it and so is Mick.

Mick,
Its about time you posted some of your excellent work on here. Of course it's not up to my standards and it's all boring stuff like wagons, diesels, coaches etc, but it's not bad.

No doubt my workbench will be sitting in his garden when I arrive this afternoon.

Cheers,
Peter

 

[P A D]

Not really on my workbench anymore, but on my brother Mick's. He's been chivvying away at the brush work and transfers and is getting close to the finish line. It's not my favourite medium to work in but it does build into a nice model. One wonders how many kits will be sold by Tower Collection now that there are ready to run options available.


The inspection door handles came as white metal castings with the kit and really didn't pass muster. Mick replaced them with hand made items in nickel silver.


It's more of less done apart from fitting the ladder and head coad discs.


I must check the weight as it is extremely heavy for its size. That little vent valve ahead of the fan cover is often missed on Class 20 models including the RTR ones and that was also knocked up by Mick along with additional underframe details.


Cheers,
Peter

 

[P A D]

So with the D11 running sweetly, I've been seconded to the paint shop. My brother Mick has just completed this two car DMU and this afternoon I gave it a waft of Halfords grey primer. Here's one car sprayed and one to go.


I keep trying to get him to post some of his work on here, as for a permanent way, carriage and wagon man, he's not a bad builder. Can't trust him with any propper stuff though.


Cheers,
Peter

 

[AJC]

The wagons seen above look interesting - always nice to see you O gauge types take the proper things seriously.

Adam

 

[P A D]

The wagons seen above look interesting - always nice to see you O gauge types take the proper things seriously.

Adam

Take things seriously? Nah, we just play with trains same as modellers in every other scale, big or small.

As to the wagons, they are scratch built by Mick and I think one may be for track cleaning, but wagons are not my department.

Cheers,
Peter

 

[AJC]

Take things seriously? Nah, we just play with trains same as modellers in every other scale, big or small.

As to the wagons, they are scratch built by Mick and I think one may be for track cleaning, but wagons are not my department.

Cheers,
Peter

Tongue firmly in cheek Peter! O does have a certain reputation for interest tailing off behind the loco draw hook and like all stereotypes there may be a grain of truth in it but the steel medfit looks good and a close up is deserved. Much more my kind of thing!

Adam